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re: Asian groups come out in support of justice department affirmative action plan

Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Iosh


Do you think less blacks would be accepted to colleges if the admissions process prohibited decisions based on race?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:45 pm to
Simply paying reparations in the form of cash funds is more efficient than things like affirmative action.

AA dilutes colleges by filling it with less qualified and less academically inclined students, which lowers the overall quality of our educational institutions.

Payments don't have that cost.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Simply paying reparations in the form of cash funds is more efficient than things like affirmative action.
Definitely agree, but we're talking about second-best solutions here. Don't see economic reparations happening any time soon.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Do you think less blacks would be accepted to colleges if the admissions process prohibited decisions based on race?
Most likely.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:49 pm to
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All American should be equal, no matter you are Asian American, African American, Latino American, Native American or European American.


Should be. People like losh will always want to give more to some than others thinking it actually heals America somehow. It only grows the divide creating an attitude of entitlement for one group and resent from the other.

You want whites and blacks to get along don't punish one for something neither did. Actually treat them as equal and maybe that's how they'll treat each other
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm 25% Irish, my people were the first real slave population in the US


Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:58 pm to
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You want whites and blacks to get along don't punish one for something neither did. Actually treat them as equal and maybe that's how they'll treat each other
I'm not overly concerned with how anyone is "treated." I don't support affirmative action because I think it'll lead to some SJW utopia where everyone holds hands and sings kumbayah. I'm concerned with concrete, measurable, persistent inequities like the wealth gap that are in substantial part the product of pre-1970s government policies.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:03 pm to
Why?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:10 pm to
Are you Dale51's alt? Go somewhere with your last question first.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:13 pm to
Huh? I'm just wondering why you think Affirmative Action, as a means of reparations, is needed in 2017.

Would your arse hurt less if I had added the "why" in with the original question.

If you had said no, my next question would be why it was still needed. Since you said yes, I'm wondering why you think so.

Don't be a bitch.
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:15 pm to
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I don't think it's enough, after several centuries of fricked treatment, for the state to just say "okay we're colorblind


Then

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I'm not overly concerned with how anyone is "treated."


Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:18 pm to
Why can't SAT requirements be the same for everyone? If you can't make the score, you don't go to college. Yay affirmative action! frick equality!
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:19 pm to
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And you can cut the 150+ years bullshite because I'm talking about all state-backed racial oppression. Jim Crow ain't that old.


I was born in 1986 and I had jack shite to do with Jim Crow (and my family didn't move to the south until 1983, so they didn't either). frick that shite if you think I should be financially responsible for that.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 1:50 pm to
I put "treated" in quotes there specifically because you were using it in the person-to-person relations sense.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 1:50 pm
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