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re: North Korea missile launch detected by Pentagon

Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Spoken like a true kindergartener


Explain that to me. Tell me why you believe vast wealth and guaranteed security is not a compelling incentive to disenchanted North Korean officials.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:43 pm to
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You do realize they are also testing missiles that can hit AK an HI with CA not too far away.


Yep, but as soon as the countries they are affecting now handle their business this will not be an issue.

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They have a self defense force and are not permitted to have a military beyond defense of nation


Does shooting missiles into their back yard trigger their ability to defend themselves?

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We are bound by treaty to have a stake with Japan.


Then we simply ask China if they want to handle it by Sept 1st or do they want us to handle it on Sept. 2nd. Also, it is going to be epensive. We will need Japan's credit card information in advance for the aid and security they are purchasing.
Posted by cbree88
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Capt. Jeff Davis


Is it the 1860's again?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:51 pm to
Regional problem, idgaf.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:52 pm to
Sounds like Japan's problem
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:52 pm to
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I have to think some of that shell has cracked in recent years, but I still think it's unlikely we can successfully orchestrate something internally

In 2017, yes. In 2020, who knows.

There have been some significant cracks in the dam in the last 2-3 years and they will likely get bigger in the next few years. When the latest Kim took over, many didn't think much of him because he was young and their suspicions have grown. There are now citizens overtly defying the authorities and, in some cases, the authorities are letting it happen without reprisal.

There are also many SK organizations that send all kinds of Western or SK products, tv shows, movies, etc over the DMZ in balloons in an effort to expose NK to the outside world and cause a revolt from within.

One of the biggest issues for reintegration is the SK's themselves. Unfortunately NK's that cross over into SK are often considered outcasts of society and stand out from the crowd due to their small stature derived from a lifetime of malnutrition.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Regional problem, idgaf.


It's actually quite a bit more than a regional problem as the United States has tens of thousands of troops on the border and considers the protection of South Korea and Japan to be in it's vital interests. So whether we might wish ourselves to be less involved in that region or not, the reality is this is very much our problem as well.
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Passing Wind
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:58 pm to
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Regional problem, idgaf.

So was Sarajevo
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 4:59 pm to
Informative post there
Posted by hambones
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 5:59 pm to
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Explain that to me. Tell me why you believe vast wealth and guaranteed security is not a compelling incentive to disenchanted North Korean officials.



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and offer them $100,000 million


Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 7:19 pm to
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$100,000 million

Hmmmm
Posted by porter8
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:21 pm to
I'm not sure about this one but the previous one they tested flew 7 times higher than the space station.

YouTube video with demo of their previous launch.

LINK

I think all the pop culture jokes of terrible launches has really blinded a lot of people that these guys are building an impressive nuculear program at an unprecedented rate.

There was a really interesting This American life podcast talking about this on their latest episode.

LINK- this American life- overcast

At this point, it's pretty much too late. A few experts believe they already have a warhead small enough to fit on an icbm. We are about to have to deal more diplomatically with NK.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:26 pm to
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No, tell me more...


China would rather have the insane guy with shitty half baked nukes than deal with all of the refugees caused by killing the insane guy.
Posted by Martini
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:47 pm to
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I'm not sure about this one but the previous one they tested flew 7 times higher than the space station. YouTube video with demo of their previous launch. LINK I think all the pop culture jokes of terrible launches has really blinded a lot of people that these guys are building an impressive nuculear program at an unprecedented rate. There was a really interesting This American life podcast talking about this on their latest episode. LINK- this American life- overcast At this point, it's pretty much too late. A few experts believe they already have a warhead small enough to fit on an icbm. We are about to have to deal more diplomatically with NK.


The one launched today has the reach if the trajectory is changed to reach the Midwest or say Louisiana. People making jokes haven't been paying attention. We have been hearing its "years" away and it's actually reality now. It's a powder key and I can't imagine it not coming to a head in the not too distant future and when it does Iraq/Afghanistan will look like Summer camp. It is going to be brutal.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 8:52 pm to
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Also, China would have to handle the humanitarian crisis if NK falls. There are millions of starving people that would need to be taken care of.


The entire population of NK is smaller than our immigrant population. China can handle it.

The best reason for them to do something about Fatboy is if NK is no longer a threat, SK no longer needs us. Our influence in the region will be much lower in the long run.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:01 pm to
Well they surely don't want Americans on their border.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:01 pm to
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lready have a warhead small enough to fit on an icbm. We are about to have to deal more diplomatically with NK.


Don't see how it really changes anything
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:09 pm to
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A few experts believe they already have a warhead small enough to fit on an icbm. We are about to have to deal more diplomatically with NK.



So lets say he does have that one warhead. Bravo to him

So lets also say that he fires his one and only warhead at the US...what does he expect to happen exactly? No retaliation?

Come on. He will never use that shite toward America. He isnt THAT crazy
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:09 pm to
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these guys are building an impressive nuculear program at an unprecedented rate.
Makes me wonder if they're getting help...
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