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The prospect of big 12 rivals playing twice a year (potentially a lot)
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:22 pm
So the round-robin Big 12 is adding a conference title game which I hadn't given much thought to until recently.
The conference has whittled down to be top-heavy in it's biggest rivals sans divisions. Does the prospect of Texas and OU playing twice or OU-OSU bother everyone as much as this Texas fan?
Just more absurdity from the Big 12. Yeah, I know it's mostly Texas and OU's fault for this situation... but as fans we're not in charge.
The conference has whittled down to be top-heavy in it's biggest rivals sans divisions. Does the prospect of Texas and OU playing twice or OU-OSU bother everyone as much as this Texas fan?
Just more absurdity from the Big 12. Yeah, I know it's mostly Texas and OU's fault for this situation... but as fans we're not in charge.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to TejasHorn
Yes, it sucks.
See: 1/9/12
See: 1/9/12
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to TejasHorn
WVU will be more than willing to kick everyone's arse more than once.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to TejasHorn
quote:you just signaled someone
Yeah, I know it's mostly Texas and OU's fault for this situation
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm to TejasHorn
How is that not right
In the PAC 12 any of the California schools can play twice
In the SEC LSU/ Florida Bama/ Tennessee and Auburn/ Georgia can play twice
In the BIG Purdue/ Indiana could play twice
I am unsure about the ACC and their schedule but isn't Florida St and Miami in different divisions
In the PAC 12 any of the California schools can play twice
In the SEC LSU/ Florida Bama/ Tennessee and Auburn/ Georgia can play twice
In the BIG Purdue/ Indiana could play twice
I am unsure about the ACC and their schedule but isn't Florida St and Miami in different divisions
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:27 pm to The Tiger Claw
quote:
How is that not right
I don't know if he meant this in particular, but the fact that they all play each other already makes the second game pointless. In your examples, it's not possible to play a full round robin schedule. So, the championship game has a purpose.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:28 pm to TejasHorn
Yes it is very dumb since we already play a full 9-game round robin schedule. I understand why it was done, but it's still dumb.
The possibility of playing OU twice is extremely bizarre to me.
The possibility of playing OU twice is extremely bizarre to me.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:35 pm to TejasHorn
You just woke up from a coma? 
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:37 pm to TejasHorn
I honestly don't care.
But I think the championship game was made necessary after the TCU v Baylor fiasco a few years ago where Baylor beat TCU and had to share the conference championship which was bullshite. Because of that, the playoff committee didn't even consider a Big 12 team because there wasn't a 'sole winner'.
If H2H isn't going to mean shite in terms of a 'true champion' like the conference said and then went back on, then the championship game is mandatory.
Also, Texas isn't making that game any time soon, so I'm not sure why ya'll give a frick.
But I think the championship game was made necessary after the TCU v Baylor fiasco a few years ago where Baylor beat TCU and had to share the conference championship which was bullshite. Because of that, the playoff committee didn't even consider a Big 12 team because there wasn't a 'sole winner'.
If H2H isn't going to mean shite in terms of a 'true champion' like the conference said and then went back on, then the championship game is mandatory.
Also, Texas isn't making that game any time soon, so I'm not sure why ya'll give a frick.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:53 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
If H2H isn't going to mean shite in terms of a 'true champion' like the conference said and then went back on, then the championship game is mandatory.
Yeah, I never got that argument. If you're both 8-1, then whoever wins H2H should be champ. Let the other pull an Ole Miss and hang a banner if they want to.
Also, it ends up messing up rivalry games. OU/OSU was moved up to November 4th, so in the case of a rematch it isn't one week apart.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 3:50 pm to TejasHorn
If Herman gets Texas going and Riley keeps OU at their current level, then OU and UT could meet regularly in the title game.
That means the Red River Rivalry loses a lot of its luster. One of the best rivalries and games in CFB could be meaningless most years because the teams will meet again in a game that really counts.
Not to mention the potential for teams to play each other twice in the span of 2-3 weeks if they play late in the regular season & again in the Championship game.
That means the Red River Rivalry loses a lot of its luster. One of the best rivalries and games in CFB could be meaningless most years because the teams will meet again in a game that really counts.
Not to mention the potential for teams to play each other twice in the span of 2-3 weeks if they play late in the regular season & again in the Championship game.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:06 pm to TejasHorn
quote:
Yeah, I know it's mostly Texas and OU's fault for this situation... but as fans we're not in charge.
Kudos to you for admitting so. It is a bit crazy but I think it looks more ridiculous because the conference did the whole expansion song and dance last year. Of all the major conference, it is definitely the one on shaky ground. Of course OU and Texas will always find a good home but the others have to look over the shoulders. Sad to say that Rutgers has more stability than TCU, Kansas State, and the others.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:20 pm to Ghost of Colby
I actually think it is a good thing because you get to keep the game at the State Fair and the Cotton Bowl.
I enjoy the Cotton Bowl. The history of the game and stadium is amazing
Then you can also have the Red Rivarly at AT&T and allow people who like the commercial part of the game and all the plastic that is Cowboys Stadium
I enjoy the Cotton Bowl. The history of the game and stadium is amazing
Then you can also have the Red Rivarly at AT&T and allow people who like the commercial part of the game and all the plastic that is Cowboys Stadium
Posted on 7/25/17 at 4:47 pm to TejasHorn
quote:
Does the prospect of Texas and OU playing twice or OU-OSU bother everyone as much as this Texas fan?
Not really. This happens in other conferences. For instance, the following SEC championship games have been rematches from the regular season
1999
2000
2001
2003
2004
2010
However, if the Big 12 doesn't have divisions, it's stupid to have a conf. championship game because the championship game will always be a rematch
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:46 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:didn't both of them play a shite nonconference schedule?
Because of that, the playoff committee didn't even consider a Big 12 team because there wasn't a 'sole winner'.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:48 pm to TejasHorn
2014 season - "you need to win a title game"
2016 season - "title games don't matter"
Yeah basically the committee is going to do what it takes to put a big school in the playoffs, so IDK if any of this will even matter.
2016 season - "title games don't matter"
Yeah basically the committee is going to do what it takes to put a big school in the playoffs, so IDK if any of this will even matter.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:49 pm to chalmetteowl
Baylor did. TCU played Minnesota (not much better).
Posted on 7/25/17 at 5:56 pm to BearsFan
It is Ohio State. Ohio State is one those schools that would bump pretty much every school except maybe USC, Texas and ND.
Whatever why they can spin the reasoning why allowing Ohio State they will
Whatever why they can spin the reasoning why allowing Ohio State they will
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:33 pm to TejasHorn
I'm not scared. Boomer Sooner 
It actually makes the Big 12 title game a bigger game than most other conferences, because it is guaranteed to be the best two teams playing each other every time
It actually makes the Big 12 title game a bigger game than most other conferences, because it is guaranteed to be the best two teams playing each other every time
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:36 pm to The Tiger Claw
quote:
How is that not right
In the PAC 12 any of the California schools can play twice
In the SEC LSU/ Florida Bama/ Tennessee and Auburn/ Georgia can play twice
In the BIG Purdue/ Indiana could play twice
I am unsure about the ACC and their schedule but isn't Florida St and Miami in different divisions
There is a huge difference between POSSIBLY having a rematch in a conference title game vs GUARANTEEING it.
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