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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:47 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:47 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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There's a theory the faceless men have a deal with the iron bank and trained Arya and let her go to kill the Lannister's because they can't pay the iron bank back. Letting Arya do the deed and not the faceless men would avoid a war.
Then the prophecy isn't true? Tyrion is working for the other side and Jamie is teetering. Seems like a weak theory to me.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:49 pm to DoUrden
The prophecy is still true, doesn't mean the faceless men and the iron bank know of this prophecy and are just going to wait for it to be fulfilled. Does that make sense?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:50 pm to DoUrden
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Then the prophecy isn't true? Tyrion is working for the other side and Jamie is teetering. Seems like a weak theory to me.
Valaquor just means younger sibling, doesn't mean her younger sibling.
There's a multitude of characters that would fulfill the valaquor
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:53 pm to wildtigercat93
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There's a multitude of characters that would fulfill the valaquor
Yeah, introducing an unknown character to take out one of the biggest villains would be a good move, I am just speaking from the show point of view.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:54 pm to DoUrden
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introducing an unknown character
Arya? WTF?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:55 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Arya? WTF?
I get what you are saying now, not a Lannister younger sibling, it wasn't clear what was meant and my thinking was narrow.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:56 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Well, while we're throwing show theories out there...
- Sansa told Jon in the last episode that he was so busy worrying about the NK that he had forgotten about Cersei. I think Dany has the opposite problem this season. Going all the way back to the second episode of the series, Tyrion says that the wall defends them against snarks and grumpkins. Dany's obsessed with the Iron Throne and Tyrion is not likely to advise her to focus on the North rather than on Cersei.
- Jon goes to Dragonstone and he gets his dragonglass, but not much else. No troops and no dragons. Dany has lost her fleet and needs her Unsullied, Dothraki and dragons to attack the Lannisters
- Sansa told Jon in the last episode that he was so busy worrying about the NK that he had forgotten about Cersei. I think Dany has the opposite problem this season. Going all the way back to the second episode of the series, Tyrion says that the wall defends them against snarks and grumpkins. Dany's obsessed with the Iron Throne and Tyrion is not likely to advise her to focus on the North rather than on Cersei.
- Jon goes to Dragonstone and he gets his dragonglass, but not much else. No troops and no dragons. Dany has lost her fleet and needs her Unsullied, Dothraki and dragons to attack the Lannisters
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:57 pm to DoUrden
hmm, possibilities for Valanqar:
Jaime
Tyrion
Sandor
Arya
Dany
Edmure
Bran
etc.
Jaime
Tyrion
Sandor
Arya
Dany
Edmure
Bran
etc.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:01 pm to saintsfan92612
It's Jaime. It's obvious and very satisfactory. GRRM follows tropes far more than people think.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:07 pm to OMLandshark
It's too perfect not to have Jaime become the Queenslayer too.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:10 pm to Esquire
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It's too perfect not to have Jaime become the Queenslayer too.
Next time he sees her in the books, she's dead. I really think the second Tommen drops dead (no way he kills himself in the books) Jaime will explain to Cersei why he killed Aerys. I really think the only person he told that to was Brienne. He would just tell Tywin he did it for family, and I think both Cersei and Tyrion would have thought about it in their chapters if Jaime told them why he actually killed him.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:18 pm to ffishstik
And...
- Jon "fights with the army he has" and heads back North with the Northerners, the Wildlings and the BWOB to fight the NK
- When Jon heads North, Sansa is left to rule Winterfell and Littlefinger makes his move, whatever it may be, in Jon's absence.
- Tyrion gets a Dragon and leads the attack on Casterly Rock as a dragon rider
- Dany stays behind at Dragonstone with Drogon
- Melisandre makes it back to Dragonstone
- Mel has a vision in the flames of Jon and his companions in peril, surrounded by Whitewalkers and wights and convinces Dany to help them. Dany goes alone on Drogon and saves them
- Jon "fights with the army he has" and heads back North with the Northerners, the Wildlings and the BWOB to fight the NK
- When Jon heads North, Sansa is left to rule Winterfell and Littlefinger makes his move, whatever it may be, in Jon's absence.
- Tyrion gets a Dragon and leads the attack on Casterly Rock as a dragon rider
- Dany stays behind at Dragonstone with Drogon
- Melisandre makes it back to Dragonstone
- Mel has a vision in the flames of Jon and his companions in peril, surrounded by Whitewalkers and wights and convinces Dany to help them. Dany goes alone on Drogon and saves them
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:21 pm to ffishstik
You are short one dragon
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:31 pm to ffishstik
AND, stuff I still think should happen in both the books and the show...
- Jaime kills Cersei
- Cleganebowl
- Tyrion ends up with his wife (Sansa) by choice this time
- Jaime kills Cersei
- Cleganebowl
- Tyrion ends up with his wife (Sansa) by choice this time
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:34 pm to ffishstik
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- Tyrion ends up with his wife (Sansa) by choice this time
With you on the other 2, but I'm a bit divided on this one. I do want her and Tyrion to end the story on a good note, but I'm not sure if they should be married.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:35 pm to DoUrden
Dany can't fly two Dragons, but I suppose it could tag along. It's less dramatic if it isn't just a girl and her dragon riding to the rescue. I'm actually hoping that somehow Bran ends up warging Rhaegal, but they probably take two dragons to Casterly Rock.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:41 pm to OMLandshark
"Hands of gold are always cold". In the book that refers to the gold chain of hands that Tyrion strangles Shea with, but it could also be foreshadowing of another famous gold hand, and God knows the show has made enough references to it, including Ed Sheeran and Euron in the last episode.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:48 pm to ffishstik
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"Hands of gold are always cold". In the book that refers to the gold chain of hands that Tyrion strangles Shea with, but it could also be foreshadowing of another famous gold hand, and God knows the show has made enough references to it, including Ed Sheeran and Euron in the last episode.
In both the book and show. Granted Jaime hasn't heard the song, but if he did, I'm sure he would repeat Tyrion's words from Shae to Cersei.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:45 am to ffishstik
I don't think Jon takes the army North. I think he and band of warriors go North of the wall For something but I'm not sure what.
I doubt Jon thinks that the army he has now will suffice against hundreds of thousands. Hell he barely thought he could win when it was 2,000 against 6,000.
Now it's what? 10,000 against 200,000?
I doubt Jon thinks that the army he has now will suffice against hundreds of thousands. Hell he barely thought he could win when it was 2,000 against 6,000.
Now it's what? 10,000 against 200,000?
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:12 am to Tic44
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how many of yall still want to frick Cersei?
Why so you can pretend to have sex with a 13 year old boy? Bitch is not hot and has the body of a prepubescent boy especially with her hair all chopped off like it is now. Don't forget that the Shame scene of her walking through Kings Landing naked was a body double.
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