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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
2001 Seattle Mariners as well
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:23 pm to Lacour
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2011 LSU
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:25 pm to Lacour
As much as 2011 LSU is underrated, any team that has Jefferson as QB doesn't belong in that list.
That said, defense and special teams on a combined basis was likely the GOAT.
That said, defense and special teams on a combined basis was likely the GOAT.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:26 pm to dawgfan24348
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Dawg fan
They had little trouble with Georgia
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:27 pm to Lacour
2005 USC was called the best ever by ESPN talking heads. Coming off a couple NCs with Leinart, Bush, White, Steve Smith, Cushing, Bing, etc.
And then they "misunderestimated" a certain Mr. Young.
And then they "misunderestimated" a certain Mr. Young.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:29 pm to Lacour
They got shut out in the title game. That automatically disqualifies them from the conversation
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:32 pm to Carson123987
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Probably not even in the top 20.
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Lmao nobody is taking this bait
2011 LSU might arguably be top 20 all time but it's not like its crazy to say they aren't. College football has been around a long time and there have been a lot of elite teams. I could find plenty of all time team rankings that have 2011 LSU well outside of the top 20 so let's not pretend it's a ridiculous position to take.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:36 pm to dawgfan24348
They still had little trouble with Georgia.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:37 pm to elposter
Nah that is pretty laughable. They went on the road and beat one of the best teams of the last 15 years and destroyed their SEC schedule. And when you look at the NFL talent that team had, it ranks as among the most prolific rosters ever. The factor that obfuscates the discussion is how much of an imbecile Miles was in playing Jefferson over Lee.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:37 pm to Lacour
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Do you have to win it all to be considered the best team ever?
Absolutely.
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Does not winning the title make them less great?
Of course it does.
Best regular season is nice and all, but not finishing that out and winning the championship absolutely hurts the legacy.
And you should add the 2001 Mariners to your list.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:39 pm to Lacour
How the hell can anyone say 2011 LSU was arguably the best team that year 
They lost by 21 in the national championship. That is definitely not "arguably the best team that year".
They lost by 21 in the national championship. That is definitely not "arguably the best team that year".
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:41 pm to Lacour
This is an absurd topic.
If you are not the best team in a given year (meaning you do not have a championship trophy)...you cannot (by definition) be the best ever.
That is like the runner up in 2014 Miss America saying she is the best contestant ever.
If you are not the best team in a given year (meaning you do not have a championship trophy)...you cannot (by definition) be the best ever.
That is like the runner up in 2014 Miss America saying she is the best contestant ever.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:45 pm to Porcine Human
2011 LSU had one of the best regular seasons ever. 13-0, victories over Oregon (neutral* site) and West Virginia (on the road), running through the SEC with only MS State (on the road) and Alabama (on the road) being less than 24-point wins. Then beating Georgia 41-10 in the SEC Championship game. Victories over 8 ranked teams including #2 once and #3 twice.
If that BCSCG goes the other way and LSU beats Alabama again, that's an easy top 5 all-time team.
But, it didn't go LSU's way, which brings us right back to the original point, of fricking course you have to win it all to be considered the best team ever.
If that BCSCG goes the other way and LSU beats Alabama again, that's an easy top 5 all-time team.
But, it didn't go LSU's way, which brings us right back to the original point, of fricking course you have to win it all to be considered the best team ever.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:45 pm to Lacour
Depends how you lose.
Basketball you can lose on a crazy fluke play like Houston in 1983 to NC State.
Football you can lose on a bad fumble while running out the clock like the Niners against the Giants in 1990.
Or David Tyree helmet catch.
You can lose because you don't make 4th and 2 by an inch like 2005 USC...I mean everyone remembers the GOAT drive at the end to win in the final seconds but the game was inches away from being over in USC's favor.
In games of inches or fluke catches or lucky bounces in basketball - the difference between winning and losing can often be miniscule and doesn't really mean one team is better than the other.
Unless you get your arse kicked like 2011 LSU (why would you include them with the 2007 Pats? They lost a close defensive battle on a helmet catch; Bama sat on LSU all day and didn't let them cross the 50.)
Point is any team that barely loses can still be considered the best...but if you get exposed or your arse beaten...uh-uh.
Basketball you can lose on a crazy fluke play like Houston in 1983 to NC State.
Football you can lose on a bad fumble while running out the clock like the Niners against the Giants in 1990.
Or David Tyree helmet catch.
You can lose because you don't make 4th and 2 by an inch like 2005 USC...I mean everyone remembers the GOAT drive at the end to win in the final seconds but the game was inches away from being over in USC's favor.
In games of inches or fluke catches or lucky bounces in basketball - the difference between winning and losing can often be miniscule and doesn't really mean one team is better than the other.
Unless you get your arse kicked like 2011 LSU (why would you include them with the 2007 Pats?
They lost a close defensive battle on a helmet catch; Bama sat on LSU all day and didn't let them cross the 50.) Point is any team that barely loses can still be considered the best...but if you get exposed or your arse beaten...uh-uh.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:49 pm to Lacour
Without question.
You can't end finish in 2nd place and be considered the best ever.
You can't end finish in 2nd place and be considered the best ever.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:51 pm to Lacour
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They still had little trouble with Georgia.
Now you just have to find where he said that Georgia team was the best ever
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:52 pm to Lacour
You could make an argument for football.
But in basketball, seven game series... Less chance of a fluke happening
But in basketball, seven game series... Less chance of a fluke happening
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:52 pm to Lou Pai
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The factor that obfuscates the discussion is how much of an imbecile Miles was in playing Jefferson over Lee.
both guys were garbage. the bottom line is that a team with either of them playing qb isn't going to be considered among the GOATs.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:54 pm to Lacour
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LSU was being called the greatest team of all time by everyone in the media before the title game.
this didn't happen. people were saying they had one of the most impressive resumes of all time (which was true), but nobody was calling them the greatest team.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:59 pm to 632627
Nah, Lee wasn't garbage by any means. It's rare to have a team that's among the all-time greats with a mediocre QB (2001 Miami), but this is one of those cases.
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