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Official OB Farm Thread
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:24 pm
I'm curious to see how many farmers we have on the OB and what kind of farming they practice.
Let's loosely define farming as a commercial operation involving the production of agricultural products. Sales and support industries are welcome to join in.
If you feel obliged, tell the board generally where you farm, your crops, and anything else
I'll go first, I farm sugarcane, soybeans, and sometimes wheat along the river in south LA with my inlaws.
We are a larger cane farm but are fairly centralized.
Cane is the main Ag product but we fallow plant beans in the fallow rotation.
Any other cane farmers in here?
Let's loosely define farming as a commercial operation involving the production of agricultural products. Sales and support industries are welcome to join in.
If you feel obliged, tell the board generally where you farm, your crops, and anything else
I'll go first, I farm sugarcane, soybeans, and sometimes wheat along the river in south LA with my inlaws.
We are a larger cane farm but are fairly centralized.
Cane is the main Ag product but we fallow plant beans in the fallow rotation.
Any other cane farmers in here?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:38 pm to stewie
I'm on farmersonly.com, does that count ?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:43 pm to stewie
I have a farm in name only as my LLC. Kinda looking to start planting some stuff soon though. Just don't have enough experience with large amounts of planting.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:45 pm to ChatRabbit77
I have a big garden... and chickens.
No farm llc
No farm llc
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:53 pm to ChatRabbit77
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farm in name only as my LLC
That seems to be a common thing around south LA.
I guess as long as you turn a profit every now and then, the tax man won't care.
What are you interested in planting?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:53 pm to oleyeller
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No farm llc
It's really my hunting camp as an LLC that has "farms" in the name. We haven't decided if we want to just do a pine plantation only or grow crops as well. Speaking of pine, we just thinned about 65 acres even though the prices are shite right now. Needed thinning done and like 4 acres cleared for a pond.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:21 pm to stewie
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What are you interested in planting?
I honestly have no clue. I have 260 acres so I guess I could experiment with different stuff. I hope you more experienced members can give tips on what's easy. Most I have planted is a backyard garden. But as of now all we are growing is pine.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:21 pm to stewie
Working for the man now so I can hopefully buy some land and start raising some cattle in the future. It's tough to get in to when you're starting out with zero acres, zero equipment, and all you own is school debt
Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:35 pm to stewie
I work in Ag and recreational land lending. Commodity prices and land values have slowed my business quite a bit.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:25 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Working for the man now s
Same here to a large extent, I help manage/operate the farm but don't own.
Hopefully one day but not yet.
That is the problem Ag will have to face in the next 10-15 years. There are so few young people in Ag and almost all of the producers are getting up there in age.
That and Ag has a messaging problem, we don't do a good enough job educating the public about our issues.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:10 pm to stewie
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There are so few young people in Ag
Cannot be said enough. I think the avg age is 55 or 65 - some obscene number.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:14 pm to Junky
I can see that.
We have a family farm up in Nebraska. My uncle is the only one of 5 that farms. Neither of his kids farm, they moved to the city and have 0 interest in farming.
I think its about 700 acres total. Going to suck when that time comes. At least its a small community and the neighbors that helped my grandpa out a ton will get first dibs. Their operation has become massive. Like 5000 acres, they had three boys and all farm.
We have a family farm up in Nebraska. My uncle is the only one of 5 that farms. Neither of his kids farm, they moved to the city and have 0 interest in farming.
I think its about 700 acres total. Going to suck when that time comes. At least its a small community and the neighbors that helped my grandpa out a ton will get first dibs. Their operation has become massive. Like 5000 acres, they had three boys and all farm.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:18 pm to Junky
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Cannot be said enough. I think the avg age is 55 or 65 - some obscene number.
If you want to start farming today as a renter, you will need 5 years of experience and $1 million of equity against a $2 million equipment loan and another $2 million revolving crop loan. That's a $5 million starter kit for a 3000 - 4000 acre operation. Which was big 20 years ago, and is just mid sized today. Your chances of going BK within 3 years are probably 50/50.
If you want to own your land one day, that's no problem. Just find someone to loan you $25 million. If you work your arse off and have extraordinary good luck, you will die on a tractor at about age 70 with everything about paid for. Your kids will hate your guts for being gone all the time. But your grandkids (who you probably hardly ever got to see) will think you were a really swell guy for setting them up with mailbox weed and condo money for life.
If this sounds like how you want to be remembered, then go for it.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:18 pm to stewie
In the same boat as downshift. Hopefully will have the land in the next two yrs.
Family at one time had a very large cattle operation but no longer unfortunately. My dream is to raise cattle and farm for a living so if any of yall have single daughters Im looking.
Family at one time had a very large cattle operation but no longer unfortunately. My dream is to raise cattle and farm for a living so if any of yall have single daughters Im looking.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:28 pm to stewie
Yea and it's a major problem.
I had big hopes and dreams of having me a spread and doing the replacement heifer thing. I make pretty good money for a 27 year old guy but when you spend 6 years in college and come out with nothing but a truck and some debt, with what land costs these days, pffftttttttt. It just ain't gonna happen unless I come across a drastic (as in a good bit more than 100%) increase in income in the next 5 years or so. I got sucked in to the grind and getting out of it is proving far more difficult than it was to get in.
I had big hopes and dreams of having me a spread and doing the replacement heifer thing. I make pretty good money for a 27 year old guy but when you spend 6 years in college and come out with nothing but a truck and some debt, with what land costs these days, pffftttttttt. It just ain't gonna happen unless I come across a drastic (as in a good bit more than 100%) increase in income in the next 5 years or so. I got sucked in to the grind and getting out of it is proving far more difficult than it was to get in.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:37 pm to No Colors
Methinks you have a pretty good clue about how this works. I've farmed, worked in Research and Extension, managed farms and sold farms. I've also done some ag lending.
There's lots of opportunity in Agriculture if you want it.
There's lots of opportunity in Agriculture if you want it.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:47 pm to Huntinguy
I'm hopping on a backhoe but I'll get back in here tonight
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:51 pm to No Colors
Do you know anyone that farms organic corn?
I've been looking into doing this
I've been looking into doing this
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:00 pm to No Colors
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If you want to start farming today as a renter, you will need 5 years of experience and $1 million of equity against a $2 million equipment loan and another $2 million revolving crop loan. That's a $5 million starter kit for a 3000 - 4000 acre operation. Which was big 20 years ago, and is just mid sized today. Your chances of going BK within 3 years are probably 50/50.
If you want to own your land one day, that's no problem. Just find someone to loan you $25 million. If you work your arse off and have extraordinary good luck, you will die on a tractor at about age 70 with everything about paid for. Your kids will hate your guts for being gone all the time. But your grandkids (who you probably hardly ever got to see) will think you were a really swell guy for setting them up with mailbox weed and condo money for life.
If this sounds like how you want to be remembered, then go for it.
Well thats freaking depressing.
My question is, and i believe every word you say here...but it's such an iffy bidness, why is land so astronomical?
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