re: To all motorcycle riders

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can't knock you out for 2-3 Months and wake you up and when you are better.

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I don't know, there's at least a couple of months in my twenties that I spent blitzed out of my mind.

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But 35 year olds typically have had nearly 20 years of DRIVING experience.

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Almost useless for riding.

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Are you saying that it is better to have very little driving experience AND no fundamental riding skills (like younger beginners)?

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Younger people usually learn new skills faster, so I'll take the younger person. I've seen more than enough "old" people acting incredibly stupid on motorcycles to think that making people wait that long is not going to do much.

And no matter how long you wait, you still have to deal with all the shitty drivers on the road that never see you. That's the real danger.

And just remember when you're at the red light in your Kia Sedona and you and your wife see me on my big black hog, she's dreaming about me boning her while you watch too scared to do Jack shite

He doesn't understand our lifestyle. We look death in the eyes every single day. If I die on my bike, then the Good Lord was obviously smiling upon me that day.

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EVERY beginning rider has NO FUNDAMENTAL RIDING SKILLS. But 35 year olds typically have had nearly 20 years of DRIVING experience. Are you saying that it is better to have very little driving experience AND no fundamental riding skills (like younger beginners)?

BTW...I am a huge advocate of motorcycle education programs....for ALL ages. I just think older riders are less impulsive than younger ones.

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nailed it.

Use to ride with buddies. Best friend of 10 years got hit head on when a old lady messing with her dog, and went into our lane, I was also within 3ft of getting hit as well. Sold my bike, and will never get on one again. Not if you get in a wreck, but when and how bad..

Work I held a guy that was dying waiting for a ambulance, he passed away in my lap asking me to tell his wife and kids he loved them.

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IMHO...rules for riding:

1. Wait till you are 35 before you ride
2. Dress for the slide instead of the ride.

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1. Completely disagree
2. Completely agree

Now as for why I disagree with #1. As you age, your reflexes slow down dramatically. On top of that, you're less likely to ride to your physical limitations as you get older.
Not that anyone should be pushing their limits on the streets, but when a car cuts you off, you need to know how to handle that bike.

Had I waited until now to start riding, I would never be capable of dragging a knee through a corner at 100+ mph. Not saying that like I'm a badass, but if a car jerks out in front of me, I have a much better chance of leaning that bike over and getting out of the way. I've taken the time and learned my limits on a bike and how far I can push it. I know how to react to things and it's 2nd nature to me.
Let someone that's 35+ and only year or so of experience on a bike get into the same situation and 1 of 2 things will happen. They will either freeze up and nail the car, or try to jerk the bike over without proper body position and tuck the front end.

I'm a firm believer that anyone on bikes should start out on dirt. I started at the age of 7. My kid has a garage full of bikes and at 9 years old can likely outride everyone posting here. He has learned how to regain control of a bike when the front end slides, or the back end breaks loose. He can control those moments and bring the bike back into check.
It's these skill sets that you never learn when you wait until you're 35+ to start riding then start out on a heavy Harley that handles like arse anyway.

I've been around motocross racing for nearly 30 years. I've had my fair share of spills and hospital trips. I've done the street bike thing, I've raced supermoto. You name the situation, I've likely been in it. As long as I've been involved with bike, the hands down best riders I've ever seen started out as kids on the dirt.
The controls are engrained in their brain, they don't have to think about it. They know how to handle the bike, they are far more aware of their surroundings because they are comfortable and confident on a bike.