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Can anyone give me a good reason to not pull out of the Paris climate deal?

Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:49 am
A lot of anger this morning about the news but it seems no one can give a legit reason why this is good for America or even good for the world.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49042 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:51 am to
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Can anyone give me a good reason to not pull out of the Paris climate deal?


Why do you hate the Earth bro?
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5694 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:51 am to
No liberals only give shitty reasons.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62544 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:51 am to
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Can anyone give me a good reason to not pull out of the Paris


I stopped reading here...
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:52 am to
It was Barry's idea.


That's the only reason liberals need.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6967 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:08 am to
Muh Icebergs
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20475 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:12 am to
I wouldn't have put it into Paris in the first place because that pussy is probably pretty rank and you'll likely get AIDS.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:28 am to
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Can anyone give me a good reason to not pull out of the Paris climate deal?

The Constitution demands we pull out. Separation of church and state.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:30 am to
The only other two countries who didn't sign the deal are Syria and Nicaragua. Who doesn't want more in common with those guys.
Posted by TigerMikeAtl
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
1974 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:34 am to
I see this climate "pact" as just another example of how politics are being used to manipulate people and independent businesses in order to increase government control and further the One World Order where only a few have most of the power.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23836 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:35 am to
Because we have to go along if we want others to go along. We either all agree not to trash the only living environment we have, or we all agree to trash it. There is no other choice.

By the way, the air and water circulate over the entire globe and do not need a visa to cross national borders. Either we are all in, or no one is in.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 9:36 am
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:45 am to
Even if you want to deny climate change, there is zero upside to walking away from these Accords.

And that is why the former CEO of Exxon is one of the sane people in the room telling Trump how dumb this move would be.... Along with coal, oil, and natural gas companies.

If you really want to put "America First" walking away from the head seat at the table of one of the most important and consequential global economic forums is flat out asinine. It is going to shape the future of the largest economies and the world stage, whether we show up or not.

Instead of being able to build the inevitable shifting of the economic order around your country first and foremost, around your interests, you willingly confer that benefit to everyone else. And in all likelihood, China becomes the greatest beneficiary. Who has been positioning themselves to take the lead if we step down for months now

Instead of negotiating and putting American companies on the best footing, we are willingly saying we rather sit on the sidelines, and stand on the outside looking in.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:47 am to
Because alphas don't pull out
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:47 am to
We'd rather be the ones to lead the charge to protect the environment than let others (China) make the rules. This is a critical point in history. Our longevity as a species is at risk if we don't set up some standards and practices for the world to follow in regards to keeping our planet healthy.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:59 am to
do you have any idea how us pulling out of that would impact the global Covfefe market?
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:19 am to
Donald Trump tweet:

“The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” 

And now, by backing out, China could very well be the front runner in the renewable energy market, making the U.S. non competitive in that manufacturing aspect.

Talk about seeing the future!
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:19 am to
It just further marks Trump's efforts to make the US a second tier country.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14012 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:59 pm to
Because the US is abdicating its position of world leader. If you don't like the trajectory of the agreement, stay in it and set the vision. When you pull out you leave leadership to the EU. Just like pulling out of the TPP left leadership with China. Trump isn't making America great, he's making America insignificant.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:42 pm to
I'm not ever in favor of ceding American global power, even about mostly benign things like the Paris Agreement. If we want to dictate the terms of the agreement, which we can, then we should stay in it and dictate those terms. If we exit, we lose a key negotiating tool. I'm guessing that Trump thinks that the agreement will fall apart without the US, but I don't think it will.

Regardless, the desire to cede US power doesn't strike me as America First. International politics is much more nuanced than that, and Trump presented a brilliant opportunity to do some great things, and he's bungled them so far with regards to foreign relations.
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