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re: Anybody here go to private school at a segregation academy when they were a kid?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:57 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:57 am to GetCocky11
I can think of 20+ white flight schools in South Carolina that are still operating.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:00 am to 14caratgoldjones
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Kids performaning at a high level can't be, and shouldn't be, expected to be have to wait so the school system can cater to kids who are slower or just don't give a damn.
I mean, there are a ton of public schools that do well with advanced students and remedial students.
Maybe it is a rural/urban divide. I'm looking at through through an urban and suburban lens. Maybe the rural public schools will just never have the right amount of funding to make it work well for the entire student body, and rural public schools are just always going to be crappy.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:01 am to Jim Rockford
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surrounding towns like Jonesboro, Farmerville, etc, that are too small to have their own private schools.
Farmerville has three schools now. Union Parish HS, D'Arbonne Woods Charter School and they've had a a private school, Union Christian, for 17 years. Guess some people thought Cedar Creek was too far or too integrated.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:02 am to redfishfan
quote:Just home school them.
This happens in public schools as well. I honestly can't blame parents for not wanting their kids in certain public school. As a former public school teacher I wouldn't send my daughter to any school that I taught at. It's much worse than you can imagine. Kids cursing at teachers and parents defending their behavior. When you have 4 to 5 kids in every class that are only their to hangout and the district refuses to remove them then the schools are going to suffer. My wife and I are having the debate about where I'll children will go to school. We both WANT to send them to public but we both know we will probably be sending them to private.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:02 am to GetCocky11
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B/c I like history, and it is interesting that there are schools that exist today that were born specifically to keep a system of separate schools in place. I find that interesting, and I'm just curious.
You do realize that ALL schools built before the 60s were built to be segregated right?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:04 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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B/c I like history, and it is interesting that there are schools that exist today that were born specifically to keep a system of separate schools in place. I find that interesting, and I'm just curious.
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You do realize that ALL schools built before the 60s were built to be segregated right?
If you don't know what I meant by my post, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:10 am to GetCocky11
My brother and cousins went to Marvell Academy in Marvell, AR.
Formed as a segregation school by a group of parents in the 60s and still remains 100% white.
Formed as a segregation school by a group of parents in the 60s and still remains 100% white.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:16 am to MontyFranklyn
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Just home school them.
Nah I want my kids to have social lives and play team sports. My childhood was extremely fun because of all the friends my brother and I had. We fished, hunted, played sports, and hung out every day from the time I turned 11 or 12.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:21 am to GetCocky11
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Do the students that attend these schools understand why the school was founded or is it just something that isn't really discussed in these communities?
I can assure you that it's not only known, but openly celebrated like a badge of honor.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:27 am to MontyFranklyn
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Alabama has two Robert E Lee High Schools. One is in Huntsville and the other in Montgomery. Lee Huntsville is mostly black, I think and Lee Montgomery is all black Montgomery also has Jeff Davis High which is almost all black now as well The irony
Because they were white schools before integration...and Lee Hsv, had removed itself from the General a while ago now..been easier to do because its actually Lee High School instead of R.E. Lee in Montgomery. Not sure why they kept the mascot 'generals' name though.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:33 am to GetCocky11
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I mean, there are a ton of public schools that do well with advanced students and remedial students. Maybe it is a rural/urban divide. I'm looking at through through an urban and suburban lens. Maybe the rural public schools will just never have the right amount of funding to make it work well for the entire student body, and rural public schools are just always going to be crappy.
Being a rural region and funding may have something to do with it but I'm willing to bet that PER SSTUDENT, the local public schools spend more than the private schools. At testing the private schools out perform then by a wide margin. The school that I attended that was once all white now has about 20 black kids, 40ish middle eastern/Indian and about 15 Latino. These parents just see the writing in the wall and if they want there kids to have a chance at a safe learning environment and receive a quality education then private is the only option. Now the segregation seems not to be of color but of expectations. I do hate it for the kids (and parents) who can't afford the private option and do wish the public would get their heads out of their arse and fix the problems but it can't be fixed locally because it's not run locally.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:33 am to GetCocky11
with all due respect parochial schools weren't bastions of integration during my youth, 60s and 70s.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:35 am to GetCocky11
I get your post, i just dont get why anybody would care in 2017.
School built in 1955 to be segregated, no problem.
School built in 1965 to be segregated. Oh no! do the kids today even know why the school was built!!
School built in 1955 to be segregated, no problem.
School built in 1965 to be segregated. Oh no! do the kids today even know why the school was built!!
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:42 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:That there is right. I went to a segregated public school for 10 years. We had a single black girl in the school for my 11th & 12th grades.
You do realize that ALL schools built before the 60s were built to be segregated right?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:46 am to Priapus
There's Jefferson Davis Academy in Blackville, SC that was created as a private school for this reason. (irony, right?)
Also, I can recall going to the Drs office in Barnwell, SC long after desegregation had occurred and I was just tall enough to see into the little check in window to notice there was another waiting room directly across the check in office from ours. I remember asking mama why "they are all on that side" and she pinched the shite outta me.
Also, I can recall going to the Drs office in Barnwell, SC long after desegregation had occurred and I was just tall enough to see into the little check in window to notice there was another waiting room directly across the check in office from ours. I remember asking mama why "they are all on that side" and she pinched the shite outta me.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:48 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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I get your post, i just dont get why anybody would care in 2017.
School built in 1955 to be segregated, no problem.
School built in 1965 to be segregated. Oh no! do the kids today even know why the school was built!!
You sounds like AnonymousTiger on the 1st page.
People are curious about things. I like history, not just the big time history stuff likes wars, but stuff like this. In this case, society in the south in the 50s, 60s, and 70s when a ton of change was happening. Instead of accepting court mandated desegregation, these places sought to get around it by setting up these academies, academies that exist today. That interests me. The way these schools fit in society today interests me. I'm the type of person that can drive through America and just learn about tiny bits of history and learn about how life was in whatever place I'm in. I like learning about stuff like that. I'm sorry that it doesn't interest you. People are interested by different things.
Like I said before, I don't hold any kind of outrage or anger with this topic. If you feel the need to become defensive or upset or dumbfounded that I brought this up, then that is your problem.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:32 am to Jim Rockford
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Cedar Creek is no longer segregated. It's still majority white, but KJ Malone went there, and He wasn't the only black kid. Ruston has always had a pretty good public school system, and many-I don't think a majority-but many, Cedar Creek kids are from surrounding towns like Jonesboro, Farmerville, etc, that are too small to have their own private schools
I went there. The way they perceive the school starting now is more of a Christian alternative to public school. It's not technically a Christian School and has no affiliation with any church, but they try to market it as a small alternative where religion isn't attacked (of any kind).
Like you said, Karl Malone's 4 kids went there. He also paid for a couple of more black kids from the area on a scholarship type deal. Multiple professors that are black send their kids there. We also had a significant amount of Indian (dot not feather) and Middle Eastern kids as well as Asians.
The school is still way majority white, but I wouldn't say they try to stop anybody from coming and every grade probably has a few minority kids out of a 50 or so person class.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Went to riverside academy up to 7th grade that probably could count as one of these back then there were 0 blacks
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:22 pm to CE Tiger
the Plaquemines Parish seg academies are long gone...
living in the Jackson area has been interesting as I learn about the schools...my stepson is at Jackson Prep (which today is much more class driven than race)...seems like most of the high end professionals in the area send their kids there...
Jackson Academy and Madison-Ridgeland Academy seem (at least in my perception) to be more of the seg academy even today...
living in the Jackson area has been interesting as I learn about the schools...my stepson is at Jackson Prep (which today is much more class driven than race)...seems like most of the high end professionals in the area send their kids there...
Jackson Academy and Madison-Ridgeland Academy seem (at least in my perception) to be more of the seg academy even today...
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:00 pm to vl100butch
The public education in Mississippi is crap except for Desoto schools, the coast, and a few others like Oxford and Tupelo. But a lot of your smaller (A and AA) MAIS schools' education is crap as well.
ETA: Heck, some MAIS schools are closing because the population they draw from are moving from certain areas.
ETA: Heck, some MAIS schools are closing because the population they draw from are moving from certain areas.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 1:21 pm
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