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Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:11 am to Thacian
Teaching is a job, therefore there is a labor market for this occupation.
Teachers will get paid what the market will bear. While it is false to say that every teacher currently earns the correct compensation based upon their production. It may be fair to say that teachers aren't actually quite as "important" as we all like to think they are, otherwise why does the market offer "so little" for such an occupation?
Is it possible that there is a surplus of labor in that labor market, which means more competition among applicants for jobs, that keeps compensation fairly low?
Is it fair to say that the barrier to entry for a teaching position, obviously depending on the level at which one teaches, is fairly low compared to other professions?
This is the stuff that interests me.
Teachers will get paid what the market will bear. While it is false to say that every teacher currently earns the correct compensation based upon their production. It may be fair to say that teachers aren't actually quite as "important" as we all like to think they are, otherwise why does the market offer "so little" for such an occupation?
Is it possible that there is a surplus of labor in that labor market, which means more competition among applicants for jobs, that keeps compensation fairly low?
Is it fair to say that the barrier to entry for a teaching position, obviously depending on the level at which one teaches, is fairly low compared to other professions?
This is the stuff that interests me.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:12 am to Thacian
quote:
Standing up for our children's educators,
too bad most teachers suck at their profession...practically anyone can be a teacher these days
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:12 am to Scruffy
I know people who struggled to get 23s on their ACTs as juniors in college to replace the Praxis I that they couldn't pass.
And they're teachers now!
And they're teachers now!
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:14 am to southernelite
If you make a 23 on the ACT, you shouldn't be a teacher.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:14 am to Dave lsu 89
Nope, I just liked doing pen tricks and those students were the only ones that wouldn't beat me up for dropping my pen 300 times a class.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:15 am to Gaston
quote:
Nope, I just liked doing pen tricks and those students were the only ones that wouldn't beat me up for dropping my pen 300 times a class.
You didnt play pencil crack baw?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:20 am to southernelite
quote:
know people who struggled to get 23s on their ACTs as juniors in college to replace the Praxis I that they couldn't pass.
And they're teachers now!
That doesn't make any sense. Why would you attempt to take the ACT over Praxis? The Praxis is basically a very easy and watered-down version of the ACT.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:21 am to Superior Pariah
quote:
That doesn't make any sense.
well i mean
they couldn't get a 23 on the ACT
we're not talking about brain surgeons here
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:24 am to Scruffy
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If you make a 23 on the ACT, you shouldn't be a teacher.
What should you be?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:26 am to High C
quote:A cubicle jockey.
What should you be?
Teachers should be some of the most intelligent individuals our society has to offer, but it is currently saturated by those who aren't qualified.
Why are we not demanding a higher standard from those who teach the future generations?
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:27 am to High C
quote:
What should you be?
A grocery store clerk.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:27 am to Scruffy
I managed to get a 26 in the 8th grade.
This actually concerns me that there are teachers who couldnt make a 23...
This actually concerns me that there are teachers who couldnt make a 23...
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:28 am to Thacian
WTF is this word garabge.
My wife makes 55K a year and once she retires she'll still draw 36K a year until she dies (thats a pension and not even anyting relates to the teacher version of a 401k). When she retires at 52 years old. She gets the summer off other and a day or two where she does a training. Plus two weeks for Christmas. A week for spring break. A week for thanksgiving.
She's pretty happy with her pay. The only complaint is all the money we have to spend on the classroom. The schools should do more to cover that or at least be able to deduct more the ant paltry $250 limit when it comes to tax time.
The only way teachers should get more is if we have much higher standards of entry. The majority of people my wife works with make me worry about our future generations (although it is probably a product of the fact that the parents at the school pretty much give zero fricks). Although we're very excited that she just got a transfer to a top notch school in the wealthiest part of the district. No more dealing with parents that give zero shits about their kids education anymore.
My wife makes 55K a year and once she retires she'll still draw 36K a year until she dies (thats a pension and not even anyting relates to the teacher version of a 401k). When she retires at 52 years old. She gets the summer off other and a day or two where she does a training. Plus two weeks for Christmas. A week for spring break. A week for thanksgiving.
She's pretty happy with her pay. The only complaint is all the money we have to spend on the classroom. The schools should do more to cover that or at least be able to deduct more the ant paltry $250 limit when it comes to tax time.
The only way teachers should get more is if we have much higher standards of entry. The majority of people my wife works with make me worry about our future generations (although it is probably a product of the fact that the parents at the school pretty much give zero fricks). Although we're very excited that she just got a transfer to a top notch school in the wealthiest part of the district. No more dealing with parents that give zero shits about their kids education anymore.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:32 am to Scruffy
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Why are we not demanding a higher standard from those who teach the future generations?
Most of the material that they are teaching is useless to the majority of the kids that they are teaching it to.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:33 am to Thacian
Are you saying teachers are worth 105,000 thousand dollars?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:36 am to Epic Cajun
quote:That is irrelevant.
Most of the material that they are teaching is useless to the majority of the kids that they are teaching it to.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:38 am to Thacian
Teachers fail to realize that if their jobs paid $100,000 per year, many of them would no longer be teachers because they would be outcompeted by people in other professions. Teaching is a pretty uncompetitive field, compared to many others.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:40 am to Thacian
If my teacher wife made 50k I would be ecstatic
Posted on 5/5/17 at 11:42 am to Alt26
Only takes the place of ss....it isnt much more than ss...the benefit to teacher retirement is you may retire before age 62 and collect ur retirement versus 62 when one is eligible to receive ss....
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