Ruby Ridge? Did the US Government Do the Right Thing?

Both sides are fricked up.

No, frick no.

Feds, especially the sniper who killed Vicki Weaver, (he also worked the Wavo massacre), should be in jail.

Ruby Ridge was total bullshite.

As was Waco.


And I'm not talking right or wrong with regard to Randy Weaver or the David Koresh asshat ... I'm talking about the Feds in both cases, totally botched both cases and should have suffered serious penalties.

The ATF informant set him up and made him cut the shotgun off at an illegal length. Supposedly he originally didn't do that. So that was straight up entrapment to get him to join the Aryan Nations dipshits who's church he had attended a few times since they were local and Weaver was a racist but he had not joined them and didn't agree with all they were selling.

The rest was government overreach leading to horrible mistakes that didn't have to happen that ended in a lot of people dying who didn't have to. Basically a federal judge said you shall not defy me and that set in motion events that ultimately would have led to the death of him and all his kids and that would have been perfectly legal and made the point they were trying to make. As it was they killed his son, his wife while holding her baby in her arms, shot his friend, shot him, and called out for the wife for days after as she lay dead in a fashion that to Weaver's family just reinforced that they were mocking them to get them enraged to come out and get killed too. According to reports, the Feds didn't know that she was dead. That's debatable. The highest level snipers in the world don't usually make mistakes of that magnitude at the ranges they were shooting. Generally if they miss, it's less than an inch or two.

No. The Government did NOT do the right thing at Ruby Ridge. The rules of engagement they implemented were basically more severe than in most places we were fighting the last few wars. They went in there with the plan of killing him and everyone else on that mountain if they didn't immediately submit. And that's what they did the first few days.

I watched the documentary titled Oklahoma City on Netflix the other day. I knew what had happened at Waco but only had ever heard of Ruby Ridge. When the documentary delved into the story I couldn't believe how complicit the government was with the death of Weaver's family. Truly sickening. Weaver may have been a racist POS but he was entrapped into breaking the law by federal law enforcement. All he wanted to do was be left alone. The government ended up killing his wife and his teenage son. Despicable.

The winner writes history. That is all you need to know.

"Crazy" white people make a very politically safe target for the federal government.

The feds were wrong from the beginning. First they set Randy up. Secondly they were using the woods around Randy's house as a training ground. Thirdly they shot a 14 year old kid's dog.

Sniper should've been prosecuted for manslaughter.

They shot his son in the back and killed him after he threw down his rifle and ran back to the house.

No. It was straight up premeditated murder.