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T-ZERO DAYS until Italy, final logistics to-do list

Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6351 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:17 pm
Finalizing everything for my trip from 4/21-4/30. Hitting Rome->Pisa->Florence->Venice. A few final questions...

Cash: Should I attempt to acquire some euro here in the US or wait until I arrive? If here, how much should I bring (walking around money)?

Clothes: While I'm going over there as a tourist (obviously) and will look like it, I don't want to be typical American. I wear shorts and flip flops here as casual wear. Is that acceptable or passe? Shorts and tennis shoes better? No shorts? Note: this doesn't count for religious places where I'll be wearing long pants. I also plan on bringing only sport fabric polo style shirts and t-shirts. Also, what about a cap? Should I leave my American flag Columbia fishing hat at home? Can I rock my LSU hat?

International driving permit: was planning on driving from Rome to Florence and see that i need (or i think i need) an international driving permit and that these are only available from AAA. There's an AAA about an hour from my house that i can hit one morning next week. Is this something that's required to drive there? If so, is it a one-day turn around at AAA?

Toiletries: We're not planning on checking any bags so we'll have ti buy most of our toiletries there. This should be no big deal, right?

Getting around Rome: We're staying in the Trastevere neighborhood. What's the best way to get from the Airport to there? Also, what's the best way to get around Rome in general (longer distances).

Tours/Pisa: I have booked short tours in each of the three big cities for us to get a feel for them but am leaving a good bit of "on our own" time to meander and discover things. That being said, what's the best way to attack Pisa? We'll kind of be just passing through on the drive from Rome to Florence. All we plan on doing is seeing the tower and baptistery. Do i need to try to book something in advance for this?

Florence: We have two full days scheduled for Florence.
At this point, Day1 will be a whole free day. We will hit all the main attractions on Day2 (I wish we could have lined this up for day one but it didn't work out). Anyway, on Day1 should we plan a day trip out to Tuscany or spend the day just taking in Florence on our own?
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 7:36 am
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:57 pm to
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Cash: Should I attempt to acquire some euro here in the US or wait until I arrive? If here, how much should I bring (walking around money)?


I would just take out money at an ATM as you need it. You will have to pay higher ATM fees, but you're on vacation and that's the easiest thing to do. A couple hundred euros is good to start. Don't carry it all around with you in case you get pickpocketed.

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Clothes: While I'm going over there as a tourist (obviously) and will look like it, I don't want to be typical American. I wear shorts and flip flops here as casual wear. Is that acceptable or passe? Shorts and tennis shoes better? No shorts? Note: this doesn't count for religious places where I'll be wearing long pants. I also plan on bringing only sport fabric polo style shirts and t-shirts. Also, what about a cap? Should I leave my American flag Columbia fishing hat at home? Can I rock my LSU hat?


This doesn't seem like a big deal, but if you are trying not to look like an American stereotype, wear some nice fitting jeans and a polo and halfway decent shoes. Pumas or something similar for the day and decent brown shoes for night. New Balance or Nike running shoes will give you away. Columbia fishing hat is a no go as is LSU hat

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Toiletries: We're not planning on checking any bags so we'll have ti buy most of our toiletries there. This should be no big deal, right?


Not a big deal. I imagine most hotels will have those anyway. But you can bring travel sizes of liquids up to 3 ounces on the plane with you and I usually bring a travel size shampoo and toothpaste with me.

Don't really know about your other questions, but I remember it was a straightforward train ride from Florence to Rome when I went-is there a reason you want to drive?
I recall drivers in Rome being pretty aggressive so I'd consider avoiding that unless you want to for some reason.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4451 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:36 am to
Enjoy Italy. Wonderful, wonderful place- very normal but with the coolest vibe.Don't expect ice, trains are listed by their final destination, doors open in, you don't need an international drivers license, you can get euros easily anywhere ( a bit expensive at airport but convenient), water is fizzy, tipping is optional but accepted, cooks want to know how you meal was, croissants and gelato galore. Pisa overrated, Cinque Terre is close and a must. Rome is Rome, Venice might be coolest spot on earth. Early morning in particular as the merchants set up for the day. Saw not one car accident despite reputation, and felt very safe entire time there. Just random input- love that place.
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 7:05 am to
Trastavere is a cool neighborhood. Check out Dar Poeta. Great pizza hidden down a small street in the neighborhood. There will be a lot of students around, because of the university in the area.

Definitely book a tour at the tower. Otherwise you may have to wait a while. Not sure about the baptistry though.

If you are only going to be in Florence for 2 days, I would just hang out and explore the city. Check out Ditta Artigianale for breakfast. It's a cool little coffee bar with very good food. If you have more than 2 days in Florence, a trip to a smaller town in Tuscany would be a nice addition. Don't miss out on the laid back atmosphere of Florence though.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16196 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 7:33 am to
Although my first trip to Europe is in a month, I wanna say not many men wear shorts over there. I recall reading that somewhere. Also, it might be a little chilly I'd imagine right now so you may not want to wear shorts and flip-flops? anyway.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35608 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 7:37 am to
You be fine in shorts, flip flops and a hat for the most part. However, if you tour a church show proper respect and wear long pants, shoes and no hat.

You'll get your driving permit while you are at AAA. I would not attempt to drive in Rome. The countryside is fine. Driving in the cities is not recommended.

Enjoy Italy. I love spending time there.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:10 pm to
You will not, generally speaking, see Italian grownup males wearing shorts in a city center. Jeans, yes...but shorts on adult men will not be a common sight. And certainly no shorts in a sit down restaurant. On balance, Italians still care about "Bella figura" and you will see lots of men in suits & great shoes. Sure, you'll see plenty of euro styled athleisure shoes, but they love loafers & cashmere. On an average day in Rome, if you see a guy in shorts & hiking sandals, he's a German tourist. LOL.

RE: traveling from FCO to Trastevere...follow the "Treno" signs in the terminal to the train station at the airport. Take the F1 train (listed as "Fara Sabina" for its end station)...departs about every 1/2 hour. You can buy a ticket from a machine or from a person (machine is easy enough)...stamp your ticket at the machine before you get on the train. While you wait for the train, get an espresso at the train station coffee bar and wonder why every hole in the wall in Italy can turn out a decent espresso at 1.50 euro but Starbucks can't manage it at twice the price.....

Get off the train at Trastevere station....exit the station (a couple flights of stairs, IIRC). Depending on where you are staying in Trastevere, you will probably need to walk through the drop off area in front of the station and go out to the middle of the street opposite the station to catch the #8 tram line (going toward the right if you stand w/your back toward the station). A tram ticket is 1 euro; you can buy one from the little store at the train station. Validate the tram ticket once you board the tram...the machine might be at front, or it might be midway down the tram car. Definitely stamp your ticket--the fine for riding w/o a validated ticket is fat (like 100 Eu). To determine which stop is closest to your lodging, use the ATAC website in English: you can look up your destination and plot the best stop: LINK . If you stay on until the Tiber river, you've gone too far.

If you like ancient ruins, consider a trip out to Ostia Antica...easy train ride, sprawling Roman era ruins with some preserved floor mosaics, small museum of artifacts, nicely preserved amphitheater. It was the ancient seaport of Rome.

Enjoy your trip....Trastevere is still a real neighborhood, unlike so much of Rome's city center.

Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3185 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:21 pm to
Driving permit?

Damn I was driving all over Tuscany for 2 weeks and never got one.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:33 pm to
Forgot to mention: on many trips thru FCO, I've found cashless ATMs. Perhaps I've just had bad luck to arrive after long holiday weekends when the cash machines don't get refilled, but I always land w/some euros in my pocket. I wanna be able to stagger over to the Taza d'Oro coffee bar & get caffeinated without having to find an ATM.

Your local bank can get euros with a few days' notice.

Hell, I once got to FCO for a 9 am departure and EVERY SINGLE restroom (men's & women's) was closed for cleaning. There literally was not a single available toilet in the entire terminal for 1.5 hours.
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1344 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:31 pm to
Try, if at all possible , to get an advanced ticket/appointment to get into Academia Gallery to see "The David" while in Florence.One of the most recognizable pieces of art in history. It was truly incredible to see the real thing. There is a replica in the square, but its just not the same. If not, the wait can get quite long if you don't get there early. Also, I think it is closed on Monday. I would spend every minute I had in Florence, IN FLORENCE. It's truly one of my favorite, if not my favorite place in the world. Great food, great vibe, just a beautiful place.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8601 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:28 pm to
I just want to remind you in Rome beware of pickpockets on city buses. A 6 year old girl almost pick pocketed my wife. Luckily I caught her in the act. If you are in a tight space like a bus, make sure to hold on to your wallet, phone, and wife's purse.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Hitting Rome->Pisa->Florence->Venice


you should skip Pisa and Venice.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11685 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:17 pm to
Clothes- If you're doing churches, it is at least strongly recommended to have pants and covered shoulders. It might be a requirement. I didn't want to be that guy, and I always wear shorts and a polo here.

Rome from the Airport should be right at €48. Flat rate for all. We had our air BnB set a guy up for us. He charged us that. Saw it on a taxi a few days later. Uber might be cheaper.

In Florence, We did a tour with Walks of Italy. (Did a Vatican & Coloseum one with them too. All excellent, 5*). It was called Florence in a day. It was amazing. The guide was incredible. Highly recommend them.

Tuscany
We did a wine tour with Grape Tours. Two wineries and an old village. Really good wine. I bought 1/2 a case from each.

Tenuta Torciano. Call them or email them. Ask them to set you up with Franco. He'll take you to Siena, then to the winery, and then finish in San Gimignano. We had lunch at the winery and tasted 10-12 wines. By taste, I mean we got dialed in. I bought a case of wine here.
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:15 am to
One other tour we did in Rome that I highly recommend to everyone going was Le Domus Romane di Palazzo Valentini. It's two old villas underground that were discovered during a renovation. They put glass floors and walls throughout the whole thing and use modern projection to enhance the areas that were destroyed over time. It was a nice, relaxing time and an awesome way to see preserved architecture that you would have to use your imagination for otherwise.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Cash: Should I attempt to acquire some euro here in the US or wait until I arrive? If here, how much should I bring (walking around money)?


I brought 250 euro, then used ATM's as needed. Make sure to use bank or credit union ATM's though.

quote:

Clothes: While I'm going over there as a tourist (obviously) and will look like it, I don't want to be typical American. I wear shorts and flip flops here as casual wear. Is that acceptable or passe? Shorts and tennis shoes better? No shorts? Note: this doesn't count for religious places where I'll be wearing long pants. I also plan on bringing only sport fabric polo style shirts and t-shirts. Also, what about a cap? Should I leave my American flag Columbia fishing hat at home? Can I rock my LSU hat?


You'll stick out regardless, unless you dress like a millennial living in NYC. That said, you will see very few locals wearing shorts or hats. Your call though. I wore pants every day of our trip.

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Toiletries: We're not planning on checking any bags so we'll have ti buy most of our toiletries there. This should be no big deal, right?


Shouldn't be, farmacias are everywhere. But it also can't hurt to bring travel sized toiletries anyway.

quote:

Getting around Rome: We're staying in the Trastevere neighborhood. What's the best way to get from the Airport to there? Also, what's the best way to get around Rome in general (longer distances).


If you can't walk, use the cabs. Make sure it's an official Rome taxi though.


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Florence: We have two full days scheduled for Florence.
At this point, Day1 will be a whole free day. We will hit all the main attractions on Day2 (I wish we could have lined this up for day one but it didn't work out). Anyway, on Day1 should we plan a day trip out to Tuscany or spend the day just taking in Florence on our own?


Day trip would be a good idea, but may be too late to book. Having a free day in Florence is not a bad thing though, it's a fantastic city. One of my most fond memories of Florence was enjoying a bottle of white with my fiance in front of the duomo in the perfect weather.

Enjoy the trip, Italy is a special place.

ETA: regarding the weather, I was there first week of May last year. Hot enough during the day to sweat if walking a lot, cool enough at night to need a jacket. It makes packing tough, especially for your SO (if she's anything like mine - mine packed a 60lbs suitcase )
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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Cash:

Just get cash once you're there. It's easiest. As mentioned, the busier points in Rome and Florence (airports, train stations, markets, etc.) are notorious for pickpockets. Keep your wallet in your front pocket.

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Clothes

Just dress like you normally dress. Don't wear flipflops in Rome or Florence. You're going to be walking A LOT. Plan your footwear accordingly.

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International driving permit:

If you're driving, you'll need one. It only took me about 30 minutes to get mine at AAA.

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Toiletries

Won't be a problem to get.

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Pisa

Just show up as early as possible at the tower. There will be a line.

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Florence

I'd stay in the city the full two days. You won't be able to see everything in a day. It's a great city, and you can get some beautiful views of the countryside from the top of the hill in the Medici garden behind the Palazzo Pitti (must see).

I went to Rome for the second time last month. Trastevere is a great neighborhood. Check out Bir and Fud, great pizza. And if you get sick of pizza and pasta, Open Baladin has a great craft beer selection and one of the best burgers I've ever had.

Enjoy the food. Drink the house wine (trust me). Take in the sights.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by DoctorO
BTR
Member since Jun 2010
276 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 6:59 pm to
Don't drive in the left lane of the autostrada unless you want an Audi up your tailpipe.
Posted by 337tigergirl
Houston
Member since Jan 2012
6556 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:05 am to
Here right now.. it's very warm. Didn't need a coat at all, just bring a light jacket
Posted by LC4Tigers
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
634 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 2:35 pm to
Don't want to hijack your thread, but it looks like you've gotten plenty of responses.

We're heading to Italy in September and are still trying to finalize plans. We're going to have 13 nights and are going to Rome/Florence/Venice. It seems some people love Cinque Terre and others aren't as impressed. Would it be worth trying to make four stops in that short of a time frame?

If not Cinque Terre, then what about the Amalfi Coast? We'll knock out all of the must-see tourist items, but are much more into exploring and getting a feel for the cities.

Advice is appreciated.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4622 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:16 pm to
I've travelled to Europe for 25+ years and have been to Italy probably 15 times. I'll throw my two cents in.

Cash and payments: Put everything you can on a credit card, especially one that does not charge the usual 3% foreign conversion fee on purchases. In recent years, Visa and MC have come to be accepted by most businesses, just as in America. You likely will only need to hit up an ATM (with your debit card, not credit card) once or twice. Don't take out too much money near the end of the trip. It will cost you dearly to re-exchange back to dollars at a currency exchange!

Transportation: I always use the buses and subways in Rome. There are only two subway lines, so it's an easy system to navigate. I usually get a multi-day pass. The system is known as "ATAC" and below is a link (you don't need to buy the tickets until you get there, but this gives you an idea). Currently, a 48 hour unlimited use ticket is only 12½ euro. Pretty cheap if you ask me. Just make sure you keep your wallet in a front pants pocket if you're in a crowded bus or subway.

Rome Transportation System

When I arrive at the Rome airport, I just head for the taxi stand and take an offical cab to my hotel. No big deal. All licensed taxis have "Comune di Roma" decals (with the license number) on the doors. As others have said, the current official flat rate from the airport to central Rome (including Trastevere) is euro 48. Unless you have a lot of luggage, taxis should be able to accomodate 4 people. During the stay, only use these official metered cabs.

Safety: leave your passport, one credit card and any excess cash in a room safe if you have one. In fact, even if you don't have a room safe, your passport is probably safer at the hotel, than with you all day. Do make copies of your passport (ID photo page) and carry that with you, and only one credit card and money for the day. Your driver's license will be a handy official ID for renting those self-tour audio guides at museums. Never give them your passport to hold. Avoid crowds who are watching an argument or fight. IME, a lot of commotion means pick pockets are busy with naive tourists!

Trastevere is one of my favorite areas of Rome to stay! I also really like the Prati near the Vatican. Many, many small local inexpensive restaurants, trattoria, tavola calda and snack bars.
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