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re: Trump to impose 20% import tax on Mexican goods to pay for wall

Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19750 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:04 pm to
One of a couple things happen here, either Mexico caves because this means a slight and temporary inconvenience for us consumers but a complete devestation of the Mexican economy. Mexico doesn't cave, tanks their own economy because demand for everything they make has now dropped in their largest market and factories close left and right, then they cave anyway. Meanwhile American slack manufacturing capacity kicks in and we start making some of our own stuff again (which neither Mexico or China wants to happen), and any of a number of other countries who would love better penetration I to our markets fill in any gaps. Mexico is in a dire position, we face a slight inconvenience
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Wrong. Another swing and a miss. Mexican coffee is Robusto. Colombian coffee is Arabica. The prices are separated on the world market. You peons who buy coffee in the store will be effected. Starbucks only uses Arabica.


Zach, never change.

You are dirt farmer Common to the Core.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
Yep, I'm fairly certain el presidente trump can impose temporary tariffs without congressional approval.

What a time to be alive!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112782 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
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(Typical ignorant loudmouthed jackass.)


OK, you're retarded and don't understand what an import is. It's a product that comes from another country. The product imported from Canada may contain elements that came from the labor or resources of 100 other countries.
But the product is imported from Canada. Only from Canada. If you put an import tax on the product from Canada it only effects the products coming from Canada.

Not from the other 100 countries.

Don't you feel like a moron?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35510 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Trump doesn't need Congress. He can impose tariffs under "emergency powers" the same way Nixon imposed price controls.
Is that true? I mean, there really isn't any sort of emergency. Could Congress override him?
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8985 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:07 pm to
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What do you buy from Mexico? Hell, my picante sauce says 'made in California.'


Yea, my stuff comes straight from China.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112782 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:07 pm to
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You are dirt farmer Common to the Core.


Translation: I can't respond to your logical refutation and it makes me feel like an idiot.

That's OK. Here is a puppy pic to make you feel all better about yourself:

Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Is that true? I mean, there really isn't any sort of emergency. Could Congress override him?
Congress could take back the statutes granting him those powers, sure. But until then, they exist. LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:09 pm to
Idiotic. Way too severe. A small tax wouldn't be defensible from an ideological standpoint. But it would likely have very limited impact.

This is simply idiocy.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19750 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Is that true? I mean, there really isn't any sort of emergency. Could Congress override him?
lol, this has been an emergency since the 90s. Hundreds of billions of dollars of damage to the economy, jobs shipped elsewhere wholesale, tens of millions of illegal invaders, many of whom are repeat offending violent criminals. Mexico is not dumping their best and brightest across the border
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Don't you feel like a moron?


OK, i think you're trolling like a boss but if not, have you ever heard of Assembled In America?

Hundreds and hundreds of US based companies do this... their components are imports. What happens to them? If they source only domestic components, do prices on their products go up or down? Would they go out of business within 12 months?

Do you drink Prestone? Are you located near a mercury dump?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:10 pm to
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American consumers!


Eventually we won't be paying 131 Billion dollars for illegals being in our country...

that's an annual estimated cost

So what do you think about that Jack?

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
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OK, you're retarded and don't understand what an import is. It's a product that comes from another country. The product imported from Canada may contain elements that came from the labor or resources of 100 other countries.
But the product is imported from Canada. Only from Canada. If you put an import tax on the product from Canada it only effects the products coming from Canada.


Yeah but the raw materials of a product made in the US could come from Mexico. So you're not quite right on this. If you buy a jack with a "made in USA" tag, it might have raw materials from Mexico. Of course, it depends on how the tariff is imposed.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23802 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
There are times in history we would have gone to war with Mexico for what they have done in the past several years.

It is time they were brought to heel.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24003 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
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But the product is imported from Canada. Only from Canada. If you put an import tax on the product from Canada it only effects the products coming from Canada. Not from the other 100 countries.


Now you are just making shite up. How do you know the supply routs of all raw materials and component parts? The shoe glue may come from Mexico into the U.S. and then go in a shipment to an assembly plant in Vietnam. How do you know? We are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in goods moving back and forth across our southern border, with the net being if they move south to north, we get taxed.

Go ahead, make up some more stuff. Then collect it for your next novel.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47192 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
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enjoy paying for that wall, American consumers!


What you will have is more American consumers buying US made products vs Mexican made which will boost our economy and stop propping up Mexico's.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Idiotic. Way too severe. A small tax wouldn't be defensible from an ideological standpoint. But it would likely have very limited impact.

This is simply idiocy.
I think you're forgetting that not all tariffs are unilateral tariffs and only those tariffs are tariff-like in their tariffness and Reagan and milk and something.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24944 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
#TrumpTax
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
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What do we get from Mexico besides Avacados and illegals?


The stupidity of Repulicans on full display. If we do not get any imports from Mexico, then how are they "stealing our jobs?"
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 3:13 pm to
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