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re: Multiple Oregon Football players hospitalized following workouts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:57 pm to Nonetheless
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:57 pm to Nonetheless
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They wouldnt survive at bama
The PED's at Bama would keep them going.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:59 pm to drunkensailor89
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To the on who said it's probably from being lazy, this is probably the cause.
quote:We're not talking about average Joes (not from Dodgeball); it's college football players. They may be out of shape, but not some guys that have been sitting on the couch for a few years and decide to workout.
People who have been working out at a high level don't get rhabdo.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:03 pm to buckeye_vol
Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:09 pm to DONHOGG
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Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Military works up to it, even if you're getting smoked. You don't go out there and do two hours of calisthenics from the get-go, even though it may seem like it.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:11 pm to oncealurker
Yeah he needs to chill the frick out or he won't last long as a coach
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:17 pm to oncealurker
Seems like this is the first time he's had an issue with his workouts. Oregon must've been coddling their players quite a bit. Guess that guy wouldn't have made it far anyways.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:20 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I thought Iowa had this happen a few years ago and it never developed into a scandal or anything.
I remember something like that happening too.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:25 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Scouring the scientific literature in mainstream medical journals, however, reveals a only a few peer-reviewed papers. The science confirms that exertional rhabdomyolysis, as this form is sometimes referred to, is uncommon and normally reserved for the elite military trainee, ultra-endurance monsters, and for victims of the occasional psychotic football coach.
From the previously linked article
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:29 pm to DONHOGG
quote:Seems like the military is building endurance moreso than pure strength.
Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Regardless, I don't expect people training for potentially life and death situations to go through a similar workout as anybody else:
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:42 pm to Thurber
There were reports about something similar happening at Houston when tom Herman took over
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:44 pm to supatigah
Gotta change the culture sometimes.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Getting kids sent to the hospital isn't culture changing.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:47 pm to DONHOGG
quote:This college football stuff is life or death, guys!!!!
Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:52 pm to Boomshockalocka
Waiting for that prevalence link
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:53 pm to jeff5891
Oh that's just what I've heard from my family and friends who work in hospitals. It may not be exactly 95 outta 100 but you get the general idea.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
Just take a look at Helfrich, you know players were tuning that dude out. I wouldn't be surprised if several player's choose to transfer now that theres a no nonsense coach there.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:07 pm to drunkensailor89
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A power lifter could easily get rhabdo if he went from the couch to doing 1 hour of nonstop lifting. It's when your muscles aren't ready for the workload and break down and enter the bloodstream. People who have been working out at a high level don't get rhabdo.
I think the crux of you point is mostly correct, but I will say that your last sentence is not nearly that cut an dry. Many big-time athletes get rhabdo. It typically happens in cases where suddenly change the types off workouts they are doing and rapidly increase their intensity and duration of anaerobic workouts. Typically it happens in sports that are skill based that switch to an off-season conditioning program. Their bodies are not used to a really high heart rate sustained over a longer period of time.
A general rule that has become best practice of most strength and conditioning coaches is raising workout intensity/duration roughly 10-15% a week we an offload week every 4-6 weeks.
If Oregon was off for a month plus without a bowl game and then went into off season conditioning out of shape and with poor nutrition, it is definitely possible you could get some guys to get rhabdo. It is serious, but where I come from, if you let yourself get so out of shape in a month that you couldn't handle off season workouts (knowing full well that those are usually the hardest ones) then you probably were not disciplined enough to be on the team.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
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but you get the general idea.
That 90% of stats are made up???
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:12 pm to jeff5891
9 times outta 10 (95 outta 100) is a figure of speech. "Almost all the time." Not literally 9x of 10.
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