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Nole fan here....
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:45 pm
Hey guys, I have enjoyed reading your board for the last week or so as the Fisher rumors started to swirl again.
Let me preface my post by saying I have zero inside sources and have no clue what Jimbo will do, but I think he is a hell of a coach and absolutely one of the best QB coaches in the country, he's referred to as the QB whisperer here in Tallahassee. Ponder and Manuel are good examples but Deondre Francois is the next special QB under Fisher if he stays and continues to coach him, that kid is a freshman and you can see the Fisher QB development transforming him week to week.
I would like to point out what I believe is a fallacy that I seem to read on this board over and over again and that is that Winston is the only reason for Fishers success, that's simply not true. That 2013 NC team at FSU was loaded across the board, every single starter on the defense went to the NFL, and the majority of the offense as well. All of those players were recruited by Fisher and the staff he assembled and that point cant be dismissed. Simply put that team was loaded, and obviously Winston was special, but they also had some of the best talent in the county along side him that were all recruited by Fisher, it wasn't a one man band.
Don't fall for this nonsense that D. Craig gets all the credit for getting Winston, Jameis is on record as saying he choose FSU because of Fisher. Craig is a hell of a recruiter as you all know and he did a great job of recruiting Winston but Winston wanted to play for Fisher and he closed the deal in Saban's backyard no less.
This years FSU team is young and losing the best player in Derwin James to a knee injury really hurt an inexperienced defense and the ACC isn't nearly as bad as the narrative I tend to read. I say that to say that yes this has been a down year but if that's your criteria for not wanting Fisher I think you are being short sighted.
Fisher has his faults, I think promoting Kelly has been a mistake, but on the flip side he brought Pruitt to Tallahassee when he was a relative unknown at Alabama so he has an eye for coaching talent. Many FSU fans will tell you his offense is complicated and Fisher can be stubborn if I'm being fair about negative criticism he gets.
I have no clue what Fisher will do and frankly no one else does at this point, I roll my eyes when I see posts about him definitely coming to LSU, or definitely staying in Tallahassee. In my opinion from someone who graduated from FSU, follows the program very closely and lives in Tallahassee, I can tell you that all rational FSU fans realize what a great coach we have and hopes he stays, I'm sure we will all know something soon.
Finally I come in peace, I'm not looking to argue with anyone or get into a nasty back and forth, simply sharing my opinions from an outsider.
Let me preface my post by saying I have zero inside sources and have no clue what Jimbo will do, but I think he is a hell of a coach and absolutely one of the best QB coaches in the country, he's referred to as the QB whisperer here in Tallahassee. Ponder and Manuel are good examples but Deondre Francois is the next special QB under Fisher if he stays and continues to coach him, that kid is a freshman and you can see the Fisher QB development transforming him week to week.
I would like to point out what I believe is a fallacy that I seem to read on this board over and over again and that is that Winston is the only reason for Fishers success, that's simply not true. That 2013 NC team at FSU was loaded across the board, every single starter on the defense went to the NFL, and the majority of the offense as well. All of those players were recruited by Fisher and the staff he assembled and that point cant be dismissed. Simply put that team was loaded, and obviously Winston was special, but they also had some of the best talent in the county along side him that were all recruited by Fisher, it wasn't a one man band.
Don't fall for this nonsense that D. Craig gets all the credit for getting Winston, Jameis is on record as saying he choose FSU because of Fisher. Craig is a hell of a recruiter as you all know and he did a great job of recruiting Winston but Winston wanted to play for Fisher and he closed the deal in Saban's backyard no less.
This years FSU team is young and losing the best player in Derwin James to a knee injury really hurt an inexperienced defense and the ACC isn't nearly as bad as the narrative I tend to read. I say that to say that yes this has been a down year but if that's your criteria for not wanting Fisher I think you are being short sighted.
Fisher has his faults, I think promoting Kelly has been a mistake, but on the flip side he brought Pruitt to Tallahassee when he was a relative unknown at Alabama so he has an eye for coaching talent. Many FSU fans will tell you his offense is complicated and Fisher can be stubborn if I'm being fair about negative criticism he gets.
I have no clue what Fisher will do and frankly no one else does at this point, I roll my eyes when I see posts about him definitely coming to LSU, or definitely staying in Tallahassee. In my opinion from someone who graduated from FSU, follows the program very closely and lives in Tallahassee, I can tell you that all rational FSU fans realize what a great coach we have and hopes he stays, I'm sure we will all know something soon.
Finally I come in peace, I'm not looking to argue with anyone or get into a nasty back and forth, simply sharing my opinions from an outsider.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:48 pm to Nolemike27
Look on the bright side if we steal him Les Miles is available
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:50 pm to Nolemike27
Assuming we are lucky enough to pull Fisher away, where would Coach O fall on your wish list....did I mention he talks like a Cajun.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:53 pm to Nolemike27
thanks for sharing some wisdom
you're not going to enlighten any CEO supporters though, they're a dense bunch
you're not going to enlighten any CEO supporters though, they're a dense bunch
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:57 pm to Nolemike27
Thank you for bringing something with intelligence and substance to this board. It's been lacking here lately.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:01 pm to Nolemike27
You're probably a UT fan that doesn't want us to get Herman aren't you?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:04 pm to Nolemike27
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but I think he is a hell of a coach and absolutely one of the best QB coaches in the country, he's referred to as the QB whisperer
duck, our idiot fans are coming!!!
quote:
I can tell you that all rational FSU fans realize what a great coach we have
see above
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:04 pm to Nolemike27
Great post. We need more posts like this from sensible human beings. Thanks for the input sir. The next few weeks should be fun
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:04 pm to Nolemike27
quote:
I have zero inside sources and have no clue what Jimbo will do
Sounds like you are overqualified for this board.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:07 pm to Nolemike27
Thanks for sharing Mike. Hopefully we steal your coach.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:08 pm to Nolemike27
quote:
Finally I come in peace, I'm not looking to argue with anyone or get into a nasty back and forth, simply sharing my opinions from an outsider.
Obligatory "welcome to the board" gif.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:09 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:quote:Sounds like you are overqualified for this board.
I have zero inside sources and have no clue what Jimbo will do
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:13 pm to Nolemike27
Jernigan was as crucial to that NC as Winston was, esp in the NCG. I've argued that him not coming to LSU potentially cost us a shot at an NC. That dude was a force.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:24 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Jernigan was as crucial to that NC as Winston was, esp in the NCG.
was that the stud NT/DT they had?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:59 pm to Nolemike27
Anybody who follows cfb knows that FSU team was loaded with talent.
Winston, Benjamin, karlos Williams, Rashard greene, o'leary some stud OL.
On defense they had Jernigan, Mario Edwards, telvin smith, Pj smith, Joyner, Rhodes, Ramsey etc
Posters on here are delusional. Every one who doesn't know anything about fsu and Jimbo say it was all Winston
That's why I have no problem with him as HC. He could definitely get that type of talent at lsu and be successful Imo
Winston, Benjamin, karlos Williams, Rashard greene, o'leary some stud OL.
On defense they had Jernigan, Mario Edwards, telvin smith, Pj smith, Joyner, Rhodes, Ramsey etc
Posters on here are delusional. Every one who doesn't know anything about fsu and Jimbo say it was all Winston
That's why I have no problem with him as HC. He could definitely get that type of talent at lsu and be successful Imo
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:03 pm to Nolemike27
O IS ONE OF US GODDAMNIT
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