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Do you feel the Saints are banking on Brees to regress?

Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28923 posts
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:48 pm
With all the information (or lack there of) in regards to the contract talks breaking down between the sides, who here believes Loomis is secretly hoping for a regression in performance by Brees this year that would either a) make him cheaper to sign or b) allow the Saints to move on from him worry-free?

I'm not going to speculate anything ludicrous like Loomis has his fingers crossed for an injury, but it's a very strange situation for a player that is almost invaluable to an organization and is coming off another good year.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10059 posts
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:52 pm to
I think they have until the start of the season, so they're waiting until the last minute to make a last ditch effort before he plays without future protection. I don't agree with how it's going, but I don't get paid for my opinion either.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30200 posts
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:55 pm to
they're banking he's going to get hurt.

plantar fascia, shoulder, etc
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
91647 posts
Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:59 pm to
I think Drew wants 4 years and the Saints want 3.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:07 pm to
I think that they are confident that at some point he will be resigned. He will work with them next offseason. Thus the risk of him having a great year and demanding a little more money or regressing and demanding a little less money is offsetting enough to where they aren't overly concerned with trying to force something right now.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 12:52 am to
Drew is still a stud and will most likely have another great year. The sticking point is, IMO, that Brees is just asking for too much guaranteed money and Loomis doesn't want to give in due to Brees' age.

This will most likely be Drew's final year as a NO Saint
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64698 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 6:48 am to
quote:

, who here believes Loomis is secretly hoping for a regression in performance by Brees


Stupid people?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 7:40 am to
I think it's more they're sure Brees will try to work a deal out with them alone next off season due to his loyalty. But if a team a QB decides to throw out 25mil a year for him, I wouldn't blame him for taking one last big payday. I haven't liked how the Saints have handled his contract situation at all honestly.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6211 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Do you feel the Saints are banking on Brees to regress?



Nope, but they know the decline is coming and don't want to get locked into a pricey long term contract.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75391 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:31 am to
Yes
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13251 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:49 am to
It gives the Saints no benefit to sign Brees now, period.

Brees will be 38 after the season, if he walks he walks.

You can't just throw a shite ton of money at a 38 y/o when you don't know how he will look this year. If I'm the Saints I'm hedging my bets and waiting for next offseason
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8077 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 11:58 am to
Brees is looking to be highest paid quarterback. Look for a 3 year deal fully guaranteed close to $70m.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Do you feel the Saints are banking on Brees to regress?


No, but I do think they are concerned enough that they are not risking the franchise's long term future on it. Obviously, the Saints and Brees getting a deal done before the season is still the best path to take, but not with the guaranteed money that Brees is supposedly demanding.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29497 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 10:35 pm to
I think:
#1 Drew is getting paid no matter what.
#2 Drew wants to stay with the Saints.

If Drew has a great year this season, we aren't getting any more of a discount later than we will now. This isnt 4years ago when we were trying to beat the mad signing rush They know what the market is. However, if we pay Drew now and he regresses, then we aren't tied in to a redonk contract.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42322 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 9:09 pm to
He has already started to regress

But he's still good
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 7/31/16 at 12:19 pm to
I think it's nothing more than the fact that Loomis is a terrible GM, has no clue how to manage the salary cap and since getting very lucky early in his tenure here has been the most overrated GM in football.

He is terrible.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67813 posts
Posted on 8/1/16 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

b) allow the Saints to move on from him worry-free?


Regardless of regression of not

We should be straight up shitting out pants when we move on from Drew Brees.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 7:30 am to
quote:

it's a very strange situat


We have him a lot of money for a long time.

Can't do it anymore
Posted by Bengaltyger4life
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
423 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 8:34 am to
Drew Brees is not regressing. I believe they will sign him soon to a contract extension. Hopefully they will extend his contract after preseason after the 53 man roster is finalized. Which of our backups can step in and lead this team and give them any chance at a winning season. Drew holds all the cards and sits in the best position, all he has to do is sit back and wait for them to come around to his terms or they can gamble on Grayson or McCown
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