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re: JBE drops the hammer
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to AbitaFan08
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to AbitaFan08
That's how I interpreted it too.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to Mr Fusion
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Don't Republicans typically favor government cuts to balance the budget
I do. I think this is a great move. Like it was said before, it's an entitlement program, not what the state needs to spend money on while we are in such a budget crisis. While I feel it is a much better use of money than an EBT card generally is, it's still a form of wellfare and I'm for gutting it.
Between this and reserving the coastal restoration money for the coast, I don't hate JBE as much as I though I would. But he still raised taxes, so frick him.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to FlyingTiger06
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Because TOPS was originally supposed to help those kids who could not get an academic scholarship and was intended to lift our state's education level. Again, the kids who will suffer most from this are those from rural schools who aren't exposed to a lot of things they'll eventually be tested on with the ACT.
I know I sound harsh, but why should the taxpayers be investing in the academic careers of these kids? In most cases, if you can't get a 24 on the ACT, you are better off doing something else with your life.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:25 pm to AbitaFan08
Absolutely agree
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:25 pm to tigercross
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If you haven't seen basic trig functions, geometry, and the quadratic equation in high school you don't deserve an academic award that grants full tuition. Sorry
So we are blaming the students for things they were not taught?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:25 pm to LSUTiger88
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There's absolutely nothing on the ACT so advanced that you shouldn't have seen it in high school.
Say what you want, but I know I saw things on the ACT that I had no clue how to solve. And I was near the top of my class in HS so it wasn't like I was some slacker who was scraping by with a C.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:25 pm to Jcorye1
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If you cannot score a 26 on the ACT, why should the taxpayers invest in your academic future?
Do you have any data and statistics that associate a high act with 1) graduating college 2) graduating college with a better paying job than those who didn't get a 26? I'm genuinely curious.
I scored a 22 and my wife scored either a 23 or 24 and we do better than the people we knew in high school who scored in the 30's. I make great money and just recently finished my masters. An ACT score really isn't a true measure of potential.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:26 pm to magildachunks
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Funny.
When TOPS got cut completely, the people who cried the most were white, middle-class republicans.
"Oh ! How will I send my kids to college?"
You obviously don't understand the grant system, or you wouldn't be spewing your ignorance for everyone to see in a public forum.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:26 pm to Barf
Yeah really so JBE will raise the qualifications to get TOPS but public schools here will remain shite.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:27 pm to Jcorye1
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I'm still surprised there is no "you have to stay in Louisiana for 3+ years after graduation" stipulation of taking the TOPS money.
Kinda hard to stimulate that when so many need to go to grad school due to the 4 year degree becoming more and more worthless.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:27 pm to Jcorye1
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if you can't get a 24 on the ACT, you are better off doing something else with your life.
You keep saying this. Where are your facts to back this up? Why don't all colleges have a minimum standard of 24 if that's the case?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:28 pm to FlyingTiger06
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Say what you want, but I know I saw things on the ACT that I had no clue how to solve. And I was near the top of my class in HS so it wasn't like I was some slacker who was scraping by with a C.
Like others have asked, can you give an example? Do they not teach algebra and geometry in rural areas? If that's the case then the schools need to be closed down.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 pm to FlyingTiger06
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Say what you want, but I know I saw things on the ACT that I had no clue how to solve. And I was near the top of my class in HS so it wasn't like I was some slacker who was scraping by with a C.
Yes, you probably saw a few things that were above your head. There's a reason you didn't go to Harvard.
But to score less than a 26, you would need to not know a pretty decent amount on the ACT. And to earn a merit based scholarship, you should probably have to work hard enough to at least know a moderate amount of information required by the ACT.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 pm to bayoumuscle21
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You obviously don't understand the grant system, or you wouldn't be spewing your ignorance for everyone to see in a public forum.
Please, dear god, explain the grant and loan systems to me.
Me being someone who lived and had both.
Expound your WISDOM!
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 pm to magildachunks
quote:want to hear more on this little snippet
Graduated '99 with a 26 ACT. Did not qualify for TOPS
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:29 pm to Epic Cajun
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Can you give examples of this?
Sure, let me reach back in my memory banks to give you a specific question that was asked on the ACT 22 years ago...No, I can't give you an example, but I do remember looking at some of the questions and realizing I had no clue how to solve it.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:30 pm to 13SaintTiger
You can get a 20 by guessing A, B, C, D all throughout the test.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:31 pm to magildachunks
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Wrong.
Graduated '99 with a 26 ACT. Did not qualify for TOPS.
Friend of mine who graduated HS with me in 95 and roommate my Freshman year at LSU made a 24 on the ACT and was on TOPS.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:32 pm to foj1981
He did something right.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:32 pm to BRgetthenet
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You can get a 20 by guessing A, B, C, D all throughout the test.
I mean that may be true and I don't really care at this point. I would just like to see some data that backs up higher act=higher chance to graduate with better jobs vs those with lower act's who made it to college.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:34 pm
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