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re: Poling skiffs in Louisiana
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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What about other costs?
If you want to compare the cost of owning a kayak to the cost of owning a boat, you're fighting a losing battle. You know that.
What other costs?
I'm not trying to say skiffs are cheaper than kayaks. I'm trying to say they are in line with the top of the line Hobie peddle kayaks.
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:56 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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Damn things are 40K used. You almost have to be a sight/fly fishing guide to justify that in south LA, or have a lot to spend on your toys.
You only spend that money if it's your thing. I got my boat for ~18k. I was back and forth between that and a gator tail. Gatortail center console was more expensive without all the toys (power pole, gps, etc.). All my friends had surface drives, so I was familiar with the fishing. I much preferred my boat. And you can get them cheaper than 18k. My boat was a year old with 26 hours on a 4 stroke motor.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:59 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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You almost have to be a sight/fly fishing guide to justify that in south LA,
I stopped trying to justify hobbies a long time ago, the dollars don't match what I can buy at the meat or fish market.
I just drive vehicles that are paid for to balance the home budget
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:02 am to Dock Holiday
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I want an East Cape Glide as a second boat. You know anyone with one? I have a couple buddies that run the Fury and Vantage and love em, but I'm interested in something smaller and looking for opinions on the Glide
There was one for sale in Houma not too long ago. I think he wanted $19k for it. Cool boats but I think you get more bang for your buck with the Bossman Karma. I've seen decked out Karmas sell in the low teens. Very similar boat.
Make no mistake about it, the fury is bordering on flats boat territory while the vantage is about the biggest flats boat can get. I wouldn't consider either one a true technical poling skiff. Fantastic boats but my idea of a poling skiff is a boat that is low hp, sub 7 inch draft, can be picked up and launched on the side the hwy 1.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:05 am to Barf
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Fantastic boats but my idea of a poling skiff is a boat that is low hp, sub 7 inch draft, can be picked up and launched on the side the hwy 1
Agree!!!
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Bossman Karma. I've seen decked out Karmas sell in the low teens. Very similar boat.
Will definitely consider, thanks
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:12 am to Dock Holiday
This boat sold for under $14k if I remember correctly. A bare bones Glide will run $20k minimum. Kevin builds beautiful boats over at ECC but the market supports high demand for his work so he gets good money for his boats. Rightfully so.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:14 am to Dock Holiday
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I stopped trying to justify hobbies a long time ago, the dollars don't match what I can buy at the meat or fish market.
I just drive vehicles that are paid for to balance the home budget
Believe me I hear you.
I just finished grinding up 100lbs of deer meat into basically hamburger that I could buy for fraction of the cost.
Still, I think that's what the OP is asking, why aren't these super specialized rigs more popular in LA? The answer is they limit what you can do, and therefore narrow down the market to the rich or very dedicated. The average weekend warrior is gonna gravitate to a boat that can do a wider range of things comfortably for the same cost. I know I am.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:17 am to Barf
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This boat sold for under $14k if I remember correctly
With the ipilot and GPS... NICE!!!
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:19 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The average weekend warrior is gonna gravitate to a boat that can do a wider range of things comfortably for the same cost. I know I am.
I guess this is where opinions differ. A lot of the camps around us in Cocodrie had some sort of small boat on the lift in addition to their bigger boats. Whether it's a Carolina Skiff or an 18' Aluminum hull. They all take off chasing reds in the marsh or specks in the winter. I would take my boat anywhere they took those boats and fish more comfortably. And you can find them priced similarly. Granted, it is an all business boat. I wouldn't take a 3 year old out in it. There's not a lot of area to sit down with your shrimp under a cork. But if you want to fish, it out performs those boats hands down. And those boats are very prevalent where I fished.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:21 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The average weekend warrior is gonna gravitate to a boat that can do a wider range of things comfortably for the same cost. I know I am.
I have contemplated the OP question for a while myself, and have come to your exact conclusion.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:23 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The average weekend warrior is gonna gravitate to a boat that can do a wider range of things comfortably for the same cost
Que the lurker with the panga...
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:24 am to KG6
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First, if I was fishing with someone else, I was just as excited for them to catch one while I poled to it. Catching it myself wouldn't have been any more fun.
Exactly, it's awesome to get the assist.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:26 am to TheDrunkenTigah
I just find it interesting that we see more things like small aluminum boats and small carolina skiffs in stead of poling skiffs. Price is obviously something to be considered but there is also this irrational fear of a glass skiff in oyster territory.
There is also a mentality in Louisiana of catch and release directly into the ice chest. Poling skiffs don't have bait wells or room to ice multiple limits of trout. That plays a big role.
I'd like to see sight casting catch on a little more but I get why someone would opt for sinking market shrimp at cuts and points for redfish rather than push poling all day for half the numbers.
There is also a mentality in Louisiana of catch and release directly into the ice chest. Poling skiffs don't have bait wells or room to ice multiple limits of trout. That plays a big role.
I'd like to see sight casting catch on a little more but I get why someone would opt for sinking market shrimp at cuts and points for redfish rather than push poling all day for half the numbers.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:31 am to Barf
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I'd like to see sight casting catch on a little more
Why have it catch on when we could save all the fun for ourselves
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:36 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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The average weekend warrior is gonna gravitate to a boat that can do a wider range of things comfortably for the same cost. I know I am.
What do you mean by wider range? If we look at it objectively, a bay boat is not big enough to fish offshore except on the calmest of days, it draws too much water to fish the interior marsh on a low tide, it's too heavy to pole, too noisy to stalk fish. You're confined to bays, deep canals or bayous, and beholden to a trolling motor.
Now a poling skiff can fish the interior year round, even on the lowest of tides. Doesn't require a trolling motor, you can still sling trout rigs in the fall and winter in the interior, and you can fish the big bays on the calm days.
I don't think it's fair to say that a bay boat is more capable than a poling skiff. A flats boat would be a good compromise but you lose the rough water capability of the big bay boats and the skinny water poling of the poling skiffs.
It has less to do with what can the boat can do and more to do with how people want to fish. I think more people in Louisiana would rather blind cast with bait than stalk fish in skinny water.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:37 am to KG6
quote:Taking the yak is less trouble for me. I hate launching a big boat alone. Also, at least one little lake I fish would be unfishable in my bay boat.
It was much easier for me to take my boat then it was to get the yak to the launch by myself. Only thing that didn't permanently stay in the boat was rods. Threw them in, launched by myself in less than 5 minutes, parked, then went on my way. Never spend more than $10 in fuel.
Yak took some dragging, taking everything out to throw in the truck, etc.. I spend a lot more time on the water compared to the parking lot with my boat. And I could get anywhere a yak could float for the most part.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:47 am to Barf
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It has less to do with what can the boat can do and more to do with how people want to fish. I think more people in Louisiana would rather blind cast with bait than stalk fish in skinny water.
So this thread is really just your subtle attempt to take a shot at what you deem a less skilled version of fishing. Carry on.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:48 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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So this thread is really just your subtle attempt to take a shot at what you deem a less skilled version of fishing. Carry on
Are you feeling ok?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:50 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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So this thread is really just your subtle attempt to take a shot at what you deem a less skilled version of fishing. Carry on.
I do know a lot of people who have a 200k camp, 50k boat, and the extent of their fishing knowledge is shrimp under a cork. But some days, those people caught more fish than I did, so more power to them. I think the point is you can still do all of that, plus sight cast with the flats/poling boats.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:54 am to Barf
Amazing how much fishing surface these little boats have.
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