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re: Anyone ever lifted documents from the HR office?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:26 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:26 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Maybe I'm wrong 
I just know that when she was going through this, we did a lot of research on it and it was unanimous that people rarely get forced to leave their jobs over non-competes right to work states. The exceptions would be companies who have iron-clad ones (many small ones don't) and people who are higher-level and can really frick up the previous company. The internet has been wrong before, so it may not be true, but I find it hard to believe the law is coming down on random non-essential employees staying in their field.
In the case of my friend, she was in fricking print advertising sales. I highly doubt any judge would force her out of a job selling freaking advertisements for a local magazine
And like I said, was not at all worth the company fighting over. There wasn't nearly enough evidence to support her job change being "competition" either (she moved from an oil/gas/industry magazine.. to a local lifestlye magazine).
I just know that when she was going through this, we did a lot of research on it and it was unanimous that people rarely get forced to leave their jobs over non-competes right to work states. The exceptions would be companies who have iron-clad ones (many small ones don't) and people who are higher-level and can really frick up the previous company. The internet has been wrong before, so it may not be true, but I find it hard to believe the law is coming down on random non-essential employees staying in their field.
In the case of my friend, she was in fricking print advertising sales. I highly doubt any judge would force her out of a job selling freaking advertisements for a local magazine
And like I said, was not at all worth the company fighting over. There wasn't nearly enough evidence to support her job change being "competition" either (she moved from an oil/gas/industry magazine.. to a local lifestlye magazine). This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 11:29 am
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:34 am to ThatMakesSense
Tell your friend to see me in my office. Now.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:36 am to ThatMakesSense
Yes my non compete
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:37 am to ThatMakesSense
You must work at some shite place if all documentation is kept in paper form. It's 2016!
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:39 am to LouisianaLady
That's a lot of words, but yeah, you're still wrong.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:41 am to LouisianaLady
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Although it wasn't necessary. Non-competes are almost always thrown out due to being a right-to-work state. They're virtually useless. And beyond that, small companies are not going to blow money/time taking a non-executive-level employee to court over such a thing.
LOL so false.
had an employment offer fall apart 3 months ago because the president of the company did not want to deal with the possibility of someone coming after them and me because of my non compete. I'm not even close to an executive. Sucks because it would have been a sweet 18% per year base + bonuses raise.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:41 am to VetteGuy
You can still be forced out of your job if the new job isn't really competition but the old job views them as that? That makes no sense. And sucks.
Glad I don't have a non-compete
Question (since internet apparently is wrong sometimes and I am curious): Are employers in LA required to pay you out for accrued vacation when you give a proper notice and leave? Everything I read says employers in our state are required to do this, but then people I talk to IRL tell me about XYZ job that didn't pay them for accrued vacation when they left.
Glad I don't have a non-compete
Question (since internet apparently is wrong sometimes and I am curious): Are employers in LA required to pay you out for accrued vacation when you give a proper notice and leave? Everything I read says employers in our state are required to do this, but then people I talk to IRL tell me about XYZ job that didn't pay them for accrued vacation when they left.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 11:44 am
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:44 am to LouisianaLady
Point being, have your lawyer review it before you sign it.
Especially if you're in sales.
I've been on both sides of this.
Especially if you're in sales.
I've been on both sides of this.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:47 am to LouisianaLady
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Although it wasn't necessary. Non-competes are almost always thrown out due to being a right-to-work state. They're virtually useless.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:53 am to ShoeBang
First thing we ask for when interviewing sales is a copy of their non compete. Turn that over to attorney and he lets us know if it's worth continuing with candidate
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:00 pm to yellowfin
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First thing we ask for when interviewing sales is a copy of their non compete. Turn that over to attorney and he lets us know if it's worth continuing with candidate
Wish they would have done that for me. Would have saved me a lot of time and excitement.
Told them I had a non compete up front. The hiring manager wasn't concerned. We spoke about compensation and everything was in writing. A week went by and I asked about where we were. "sorry , your non compete has been deemed a risk we aren't willing to take" - later dick.
Welp, back to my job. Luckily in a year and a half, my non compete is null because I had my lawyer redline it before I signed it. Also only in effect if I leave voluntarily. If they fire me or lay me off, I am scott free.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:05 pm to ThatMakesSense
That guy sounds like a winner.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:07 pm to LouisianaLady
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LouisianaLady
What was the arrangement she had with the HR employee that lifted her NC?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:07 pm to LouisianaLady
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Non-competes are almost always thrown out due to being a right-to-work state. They're virtually useless.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:12 pm to Tigeralum2008
Friends. The CEO/President of the company was/is unanimously hated by all employees there, so it wasn't difficult. It turned out that her non-compete was one from before they updated them as well, so it was only valid for 90 days after she left.
5 (out of only 12) employees left after the friend and myself, now that I think about it. One went to work for a client. No idea if that was covered in the non-compete, but the company was thrilled for her.. I guess because they figured her employment there would guarantee that company remains a big-paying client.
I guess if y'all are right, it sucks for anyone out there Googling. Website after website says this kind of thing. That is disheartening.
5 (out of only 12) employees left after the friend and myself, now that I think about it. One went to work for a client. No idea if that was covered in the non-compete, but the company was thrilled for her.. I guess because they figured her employment there would guarantee that company remains a big-paying client.
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About one-third of states have some restriction on the enforceability of non-compete agreements because they interfere with a person’s basic ability to work and make a living.
I guess if y'all are right, it sucks for anyone out there Googling. Website after website says this kind of thing. That is disheartening.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:14 pm to ShoeBang
And for the OP:
If an employee stole documents from our company and we could prove it they'd go to jail.
If an employee stole documents from our company and we could prove it they'd go to jail.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:17 pm to Tiger at Law
LL isn't wrong, guys... you all are. She's 18 and has more real world experience than all of you combined.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:19 pm to terd ferguson
WTF? I didn't say that's what I think. I don't think anything... as I never have (and hopefully never will) deal[t] with a non-compete. I just said that is what I read.
Also, there is nothing insulting about calling 6 years younger than I am. If I had that body still, I'd be happy as a clam.
I just said that is what I read. Also, there is nothing insulting about calling 6 years younger than I am. If I had that body still, I'd be happy as a clam.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:21 pm to LouisianaLady
Hey don't get mad at me... I'm on your side here.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 12:23 pm to ThatMakesSense
Is your friend's name George Costanza?
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