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(Spoilers Hateful 8)Tarantino can't help but being a self indulgent a-hole
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:37 pm
There was a lot of good stuff in the Hateful 8. Approaching the midpoint, I started thinking this could end up being in the top two or three of his movies. But then about the midpoint, he had to break the fricking 4th wall in such "trendy" and "clever ways", it took me fricking completely out of the movie.
Samuel L Jackson making the racist suck his dick. Are you kidding me? That scene felt so out of place. It just felt so modernly expressive. fricking dumb.
Tarintiono's Narration. Everything about it was out of place. Everything. But even if you accept it into the movie and ignore all the other problems with it, the technical implementation into the movie is so horrendous for such a technical filmmaker that I can't help but wonder if it was unintentional.
The shot where the foreground and background kept on switching focus. Jesus Christ that was annoying and pointless. I want to watch a fricking movie, not you fricking jerking off to a fricking camera.
Also, while i did like all the actors, some of the acting was wildly out of place.
Samuel L Jackson making the racist suck his dick. Are you kidding me? That scene felt so out of place. It just felt so modernly expressive. fricking dumb.
Tarintiono's Narration. Everything about it was out of place. Everything. But even if you accept it into the movie and ignore all the other problems with it, the technical implementation into the movie is so horrendous for such a technical filmmaker that I can't help but wonder if it was unintentional.
The shot where the foreground and background kept on switching focus. Jesus Christ that was annoying and pointless. I want to watch a fricking movie, not you fricking jerking off to a fricking camera.
Also, while i did like all the actors, some of the acting was wildly out of place.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:50 pm to athenslife101
I had read the leaked script, and all I'll say is that the ending that was in that script was far superior to the ending that was in the film version. I really enjoyed the first 2-odd hours... the last 30 minutes ruined it for me.
And I agree: the "dingus" scene didn't for and was unnecessary, as was the narration.
On the positive side, I will say that Walton Goggins had a heckuva performance.
And I agree: the "dingus" scene didn't for and was unnecessary, as was the narration.
On the positive side, I will say that Walton Goggins had a heckuva performance.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:52 pm to athenslife101
First of all, and very importantly, put "Hateful 8 Spoilers" in your thread title. Douchey not to.
He may have very well made up the blow job part. I believe that he definitely knew, and probably killed, the guy's son. But the BJ and nudewalk sounds like something that he very likely made up to piss him off.
But I do agree that Tarantino's "Look how much I hate racists" schtick is getting old. He already told us in the superb Basterds and the good-enough Django. "Hateful Eight" would have been a great movie if it were Tarantino's first. As is, it was an above average film that feels too familiar.
He may have very well made up the blow job part. I believe that he definitely knew, and probably killed, the guy's son. But the BJ and nudewalk sounds like something that he very likely made up to piss him off.
But I do agree that Tarantino's "Look how much I hate racists" schtick is getting old. He already told us in the superb Basterds and the good-enough Django. "Hateful Eight" would have been a great movie if it were Tarantino's first. As is, it was an above average film that feels too familiar.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:57 pm to WARBOY
Oh, I thought Goggins was fantastic. For the most part.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:00 pm to athenslife101
For me it felt almost as if Tarantino handed the reigns to another director for the final "Chapter" of the film. It was haphazard, poorly-concocted, and unfulfilling.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:01 pm to athenslife101
I don't see why he bitched and whined over a leaked script that had boring film written all over it.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:18 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
But I do agree that Tarantino's "Look how much I hate racists" schtick is getting old
Agree
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:30 pm to athenslife101
I hated watching that scene with my dad.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:42 pm to beauchristopher
He made the BJ part up, so the guy would go for his gun. I figured it out when he asked him, was he seeing pictures.
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:43 pm to THRILLHO
I posted this a few days ago on the Hateful 8 screener board , when not many had seen the film yet and I will post it again because it falls right in line with what ya'll are saying, only a little more in-depth.
"Tarantino ,as some others have said,has definitely slipped. His last 3 movies have all been 25 min too long and meander with too much pointless dialogue, I know, I know, that's his forte but his scenes do not have the same sharpness to them as a previous poster stated. Compare the dinner scene in Django to any conversation in Pulp Fiction or even Jackie Brown, the earlier works are all shorter, crisper, and simply flow better. He got carte blanche after Kill Bill and his movies have all become too long. Hr has fallen too much in love with his own writing. Hateful Eight is essentially a mystery stage play ,a quality one, but a play none the less, very 12 Angry Men-esque. I also think Tarantino has gone WAY too far down this whole blaxploitation route. Jackie Brown was great, and Django was very good too, but some of the black characters in this one were almost laughable. The all black owned haberdashery in the mountains of Wyoming?? Come on, I know Quentin thinks he's black and tries to show it by his FUBU getups and praising of cop killers, but the casting in that scene was not even remotely authentic. The actors seemed a little off and not confident, it was just a bizarre choice. Also if you've seen any interviews of him over the last 4 or 5 yrs his ego has gotten way way too inflated and I think it's showing in his last couple films. Look, I love the guy, his movies are must watch and events, something almost unheard of outside the comic book/sci-fi genres now, but I just think he has lost a couple mph on his fastball."
"Tarantino ,as some others have said,has definitely slipped. His last 3 movies have all been 25 min too long and meander with too much pointless dialogue, I know, I know, that's his forte but his scenes do not have the same sharpness to them as a previous poster stated. Compare the dinner scene in Django to any conversation in Pulp Fiction or even Jackie Brown, the earlier works are all shorter, crisper, and simply flow better. He got carte blanche after Kill Bill and his movies have all become too long. Hr has fallen too much in love with his own writing. Hateful Eight is essentially a mystery stage play ,a quality one, but a play none the less, very 12 Angry Men-esque. I also think Tarantino has gone WAY too far down this whole blaxploitation route. Jackie Brown was great, and Django was very good too, but some of the black characters in this one were almost laughable. The all black owned haberdashery in the mountains of Wyoming?? Come on, I know Quentin thinks he's black and tries to show it by his FUBU getups and praising of cop killers, but the casting in that scene was not even remotely authentic. The actors seemed a little off and not confident, it was just a bizarre choice. Also if you've seen any interviews of him over the last 4 or 5 yrs his ego has gotten way way too inflated and I think it's showing in his last couple films. Look, I love the guy, his movies are must watch and events, something almost unheard of outside the comic book/sci-fi genres now, but I just think he has lost a couple mph on his fastball."
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:50 pm to Jack Ruby
You lost me with the blaxploitation comment. The movie didn't seem that way to me at all. What made the black characters seem laughable to you? There were only like three at the store with very few lines. I thought it was a pretty decent movie at best.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:08 am to athenslife101
My daughters' dance instructor is the mother of the blowjob actor. I'm not sure that I want to tell her that I watched her sons performance. 
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:10 am to WARBOY
What was the original ending?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:42 am to athenslife101
QT jumped the shark for me a while ago. His corny "dark comedy" has become worn-out. It used to be edgy, but in retrospect, I think it just had shock value, and as his shtick has become routine and isn't shocking anymore, it's just kind of laughable now.
I also don't get his motivation for the black pandering. We get it. Racism is bad, but Django and this seem like some kind of racial revenge porn, and it's more droll than witty or dramatic.
He's just kind of a coked-up douchebag now.
I also don't get his motivation for the black pandering. We get it. Racism is bad, but Django and this seem like some kind of racial revenge porn, and it's more droll than witty or dramatic.
He's just kind of a coked-up douchebag now.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 2:56 am to athenslife101
That shite didn't happen, just like he had a letter from Abraham LIncoln.
" got me on that stage coach tho"
"Got him to go for the gun"
" got me on that stage coach tho"
"Got him to go for the gun"
Posted on 12/31/15 at 5:58 am to athenslife101
The BJ scene was terrible. It wasn't shocking or edgy, it was just terrible.
I thought Channing Tatum felt awkward in the movie for some reason. He seemed out of place for some reason.
The more movies QT makes, the less I feel like I need to see them. In my mind, he peaked with Pulp Fiction and has been trending downward ever since.
I thought Channing Tatum felt awkward in the movie for some reason. He seemed out of place for some reason.
The more movies QT makes, the less I feel like I need to see them. In my mind, he peaked with Pulp Fiction and has been trending downward ever since.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:19 am to DownSouthDave
from what I read the bj scene already makes me uncomfortable and I haven't watched the movie yet.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:32 am to Gorilla Ball
It's just strange and out of place.
To me, Goggins, Russell and Jennifer Jason Leigh were really good. They carried the movie.
Samuel L Jackson was himself. I'm not a huge fan.
Tatum, Roth and Madsen were bad. I didn't like them at all in this movie. The characters were bad, their dialogue was bad and the actors were bad.
It's worth seeing, but it's not going to blow your mind.
To me, Goggins, Russell and Jennifer Jason Leigh were really good. They carried the movie.
Samuel L Jackson was himself. I'm not a huge fan.
Tatum, Roth and Madsen were bad. I didn't like them at all in this movie. The characters were bad, their dialogue was bad and the actors were bad.
It's worth seeing, but it's not going to blow your mind.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:31 am to DownSouthDave
Madsen was the same as he is in every movie not sure why you thought he was bad
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:45 am to Byron Bojangles III
He was great in reservoir dogs. His character didn't come off as believable to me. Maybe it wasn't his fault, maybe it was the part. But I don't think the film would not have been any worse without him.
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