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(Spoilers Hateful 8)Tarantino can't help but being a self indulgent a-hole

Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:37 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20364 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:37 pm
There was a lot of good stuff in the Hateful 8. Approaching the midpoint, I started thinking this could end up being in the top two or three of his movies. But then about the midpoint, he had to break the fricking 4th wall in such "trendy" and "clever ways", it took me fricking completely out of the movie.

Samuel L Jackson making the racist suck his dick. Are you kidding me? That scene felt so out of place. It just felt so modernly expressive. fricking dumb.

Tarintiono's Narration. Everything about it was out of place. Everything. But even if you accept it into the movie and ignore all the other problems with it, the technical implementation into the movie is so horrendous for such a technical filmmaker that I can't help but wonder if it was unintentional.

The shot where the foreground and background kept on switching focus. Jesus Christ that was annoying and pointless. I want to watch a fricking movie, not you fricking jerking off to a fricking camera.

Also, while i did like all the actors, some of the acting was wildly out of place.

This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:57 pm
Posted by WARBOY
Gates of Valhalla
Member since Oct 2015
326 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:50 pm to
I had read the leaked script, and all I'll say is that the ending that was in that script was far superior to the ending that was in the film version. I really enjoyed the first 2-odd hours... the last 30 minutes ruined it for me.

And I agree: the "dingus" scene didn't for and was unnecessary, as was the narration.

On the positive side, I will say that Walton Goggins had a heckuva performance.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:52 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
50299 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:52 pm to
First of all, and very importantly, put "Hateful 8 Spoilers" in your thread title. Douchey not to.

He may have very well made up the blow job part. I believe that he definitely knew, and probably killed, the guy's son. But the BJ and nudewalk sounds like something that he very likely made up to piss him off.

But I do agree that Tarantino's "Look how much I hate racists" schtick is getting old. He already told us in the superb Basterds and the good-enough Django. "Hateful Eight" would have been a great movie if it were Tarantino's first. As is, it was an above average film that feels too familiar.
This post was edited on 12/30/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20364 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 10:57 pm to
Oh, I thought Goggins was fantastic. For the most part.
Posted by WARBOY
Gates of Valhalla
Member since Oct 2015
326 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:00 pm to
For me it felt almost as if Tarantino handed the reigns to another director for the final "Chapter" of the film. It was haphazard, poorly-concocted, and unfulfilling.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27139 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:01 pm to
I don't see why he bitched and whined over a leaked script that had boring film written all over it.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83649 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

But I do agree that Tarantino's "Look how much I hate racists" schtick is getting old

Agree
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73107 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:30 pm to
I hated watching that scene with my dad.

Posted by Pepband13
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
108 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:42 pm to
He made the BJ part up, so the guy would go for his gun. I figured it out when he asked him, was he seeing pictures.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26811 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:43 pm to
I posted this a few days ago on the Hateful 8 screener board , when not many had seen the film yet and I will post it again because it falls right in line with what ya'll are saying, only a little more in-depth.

"Tarantino ,as some others have said,has definitely slipped. His last 3 movies have all been 25 min too long and meander with too much pointless dialogue, I know, I know, that's his forte but his scenes do not have the same sharpness to them as a previous poster stated. Compare the dinner scene in Django to any conversation in Pulp Fiction or even Jackie Brown, the earlier works are all shorter, crisper, and simply flow better. He got carte blanche after Kill Bill and his movies have all become too long. Hr has fallen too much in love with his own writing. Hateful Eight is essentially a mystery stage play ,a quality one, but a play none the less, very 12 Angry Men-esque. I also think Tarantino has gone WAY too far down this whole blaxploitation route. Jackie Brown was great, and Django was very good too, but some of the black characters in this one were almost laughable. The all black owned haberdashery in the mountains of Wyoming?? Come on, I know Quentin thinks he's black and tries to show it by his FUBU getups and praising of cop killers, but the casting in that scene was not even remotely authentic. The actors seemed a little off and not confident, it was just a bizarre choice. Also if you've seen any interviews of him over the last 4 or 5 yrs his ego has gotten way way too inflated and I think it's showing in his last couple films. Look, I love the guy, his movies are must watch and events, something almost unheard of outside the comic book/sci-fi genres now, but I just think he has lost a couple mph on his fastball."
Posted by Pepband13
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
108 posts
Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:50 pm to
You lost me with the blaxploitation comment. The movie didn't seem that way to me at all. What made the black characters seem laughable to you? There were only like three at the store with very few lines. I thought it was a pretty decent movie at best.
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 12:05 am
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12232 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:08 am to
My daughters' dance instructor is the mother of the blowjob actor. I'm not sure that I want to tell her that I watched her sons performance.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52199 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:10 am to
What was the original ending?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64016 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:42 am to
QT jumped the shark for me a while ago. His corny "dark comedy" has become worn-out. It used to be edgy, but in retrospect, I think it just had shock value, and as his shtick has become routine and isn't shocking anymore, it's just kind of laughable now.

I also don't get his motivation for the black pandering. We get it. Racism is bad, but Django and this seem like some kind of racial revenge porn, and it's more droll than witty or dramatic.

He's just kind of a coked-up douchebag now.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6945 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 2:56 am to
That shite didn't happen, just like he had a letter from Abraham LIncoln.

" got me on that stage coach tho"

"Got him to go for the gun"
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7506 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 5:58 am to
The BJ scene was terrible. It wasn't shocking or edgy, it was just terrible.

I thought Channing Tatum felt awkward in the movie for some reason. He seemed out of place for some reason.

The more movies QT makes, the less I feel like I need to see them. In my mind, he peaked with Pulp Fiction and has been trending downward ever since.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12959 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:19 am to
from what I read the bj scene already makes me uncomfortable and I haven't watched the movie yet.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7506 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 6:32 am to
It's just strange and out of place.

To me, Goggins, Russell and Jennifer Jason Leigh were really good. They carried the movie.

Samuel L Jackson was himself. I'm not a huge fan.

Tatum, Roth and Madsen were bad. I didn't like them at all in this movie. The characters were bad, their dialogue was bad and the actors were bad.

It's worth seeing, but it's not going to blow your mind.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52199 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:31 am to
Madsen was the same as he is in every movie not sure why you thought he was bad
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7506 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:45 am to
He was great in reservoir dogs. His character didn't come off as believable to me. Maybe it wasn't his fault, maybe it was the part. But I don't think the film would not have been any worse without him.

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