re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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Stupidest part of movie to me is why the starkiller base wasn't charred to a crisp being that close to a SUN. At first, I tries to justify it by thinking, well, its got shields around it... OK. but then, they drop the shields to let the xwings in, so it would have quickly cooked. Plus the WHOLE concept of just sucking a sun dry is just stupid. Then, they not only shoot it out of the planet, but make it split into 5 or 6 pieces to make a pinpoint accurate shot on different planets over light-years of distance. Plus, if they can build that, then they for sure could build shielding so powerful that nothing could get through the shielding on anything they want. Nothing could touch them. And Im just getting started. BUT, apart from the obvious stupid science stuff, I liked the movie and found it very entertaining.

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Fun fact, it's a fricking movie

My theories after my second viewing:

1. Rey is most definitely Han and Leia's daughter. Too many hints to be ignored there.

2. Ren and Rey are NOT twins. Rey is the younger of the two. Leia found out she was pregnant after Han left and never told him about their second child.

3. Rey was left on Jakku for safekeeping from Snoke. More than likely, Luke told Leia how powerful her child would be in the Force and knew that she would be in danger.

4. Finn ends up being related to Lando Calrissian in some way. No evidence, just a hunch.

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My theories after my second viewing: 1. Rey is most definitely Han and Leia's daughter. Too many hints to be ignored there. 2. Ren and Rey are NOT twins. Rey is the younger of the two. Leia found out she was pregnant after Han left and never told him about their second child. 3. Rey was left on Jakku for safekeeping from Snoke. More than likely, Luke told Leia how powerful her child would be in the Force and knew that she would be in danger. 4. Finn ends up being related to Lando Calrissian in some way. No evidence, just a hunch.

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1. Makes no sense. The ages don't match up. If Rey was Han and Leias daughter, she would've been born before Ben turned. So there's no way Han doesn't know about her. And there's no way Leia doesn't keep tabs on her daughter.

Rey has to be Lukes daughter. She's good with machines (like her grandfather) and is an exceptional pilot (like her grandfather and father). Both Anakin and Luke showed aptitude for the force with little to no training. Anakin built 3PO and raced pod racing without any knowledge of the force.

Luke flew Beggars Canyon and bullseyed wamp rats in his T-16 with no knowledge of his father, then destroyed the Death Star after Ben training him with nothing but a lightsaber and a remote. Then in Empire, Lukes figured out how to summon his lightsaber to kill the wampa in the ice cave, and then successfully holds his own against Vader after arguably a very short amount of time training with Yoda.

If Rey is in fact Rey Skywalker, then it's not too much of a stretch to assume she shares her family traits, and would undoubtedly be extremely powerful in the line of Skywlakers, especially if we find out her mother was a Jedi as well. A Jedi's skill with a lightsaber has a lot to do with their tune with the Force. If she gives herself over in the fight, no reason to believe she can't defeat an injured and scared Kylo Ren.

Also, the Max Von Sydow character is supposedly some Jedi scholar. Wouldn't surprise me to find out Luke asked him to watch over her much as Yoda had done Obi Wan.

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On rewatch its pretty clear Ray is Han and Leias other kid

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It couldn't be any less clear.

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1. Rey is most definitely Han and Leia's daughter. Too many hints to be ignored there.

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Rey is most definitely not Han and Leia's daughter. They sure as hell would have emphasized it more. Leia certainly would have talked about having a long lost daughter they abandoned on Jakku when she found out Han picked them up on that planet.

They're merely her aunt and uncle IMO. If Rey was Leia's daughter and came back after watching her father being murdered by her brother, no way would Leia allow to go find Luke. She'd just send Chewie and Poe to go retrieve him. Han acts cool and bullshits with her and Leia is emotionally supportive while allowing her to go face her own destiny. That's stuff uncles and aunts do, not parents. If they ran into their long lost daughter, their reactions would be much different.

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3. Rey was left on Jakku for safekeeping from Snoke. More than likely, Luke told Leia how powerful her child would be in the Force and knew that she would be in danger.

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Safe keeping? On Jakku? It's nothing short of a miracle she survived on that planet for like 15 years. This reeks of a place a psychopath like Kylo would abandon someone rather than a loving mother. And she did it when Rey was 5.

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She's good with machines (like her grandfather) and is an exceptional pilot (like her grandfather and father)

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Luke and Leia are twins. It's not impossible that those traits could be passed down through Leia as well.

But Leia exhibits none of those traits. Luke does.

Who's foster father was a huge leader in the rebellion, and knew who Leia was, who her father was. She would've known far more about the Jedi than Luke.

Don't think Rey is Han and Leia's daughter. Leia sent Han basically to his death to save her son; she's very casual in Rey's loss. These instincts don't jibe.

Here's an interesting thought: Rey is related to nobody from the OT, she just happens to be gifted with the Force.

She and Luke develop a relationship as he trains her, and their love draws him back fully into the Light side, and is what saves him and the Galaxy. Outside of the age, it makes the most sense for the story; as compared to Luke randomly having a kid from a woman we will never see or know about. That would suck, honestly.