re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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So similarly to Darth Vader in the OS, after time he loses his lightsaber abilities because he just didnt use them

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Actually, Darth Vader had to change his lightsaber fighting style due to the fact he had 3 mechanical limbs and was in a suit that restricted his movements. In the reading up on some of the Star Wars universe, it stated that Vader had to adjust his fighting style, not necessarily losing his ability.

Nevertheless, I felt your post was well done.

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I thought Vader had 4 mechanical limbs With the right hand being his first limb taken

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You're correct. I forgot about his left arm also being severed by Obi Won in ROS.

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Finn was part of a 4-man fire team

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I thought he went AWOL on his first combat mission. Doesn't he say something to that effect in the film?

I don't like this, if true. So Finn is supposedly part of a tight group, one gets killed, and he reacts by turning on the others?

Plus, why does he then say he was a janitor on Starkiller base? Do SEALs work in waste management?

To me, it's better off just trying to establish that Storm Troopers in general are just highly trained in combat, and are tougher than they had been portrayed. And that Force users aren't immediately demi-gods.

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but apparently in the pre-force awakens novel (now canon), Finn was part of a 4-man fire team and ranked at the top of his class in hand to hand combat and blasters, explaining how it took a few minutes to get his arse completely kicked.

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Then why the hell was he working sanitation on the Starkiller Base?

Never been in boot camp or the military, have you?

Watched it again this weekend also. It was really good, but there were some really minor things I didn't like:
1. Not sure what purpose the old guy at the beginning served. Maybe he was there watching over Ray and that will be cleared up in time. Would have been a good place to use a character people were familiar with from old movies.
2. Was not real clear to my kids that Kylo Ren made it off star killer base before it exploded. Caused some debate amongst them. A simple shot of him getting out of there would have been good.
3. Not real clear why the entire base exploded. The plan wasnt to blow up the whole thing, just destroy the firing mechanism.
4. There was alot of unexplained carnage. Particularly to Coruscant. Considering jedi archives were there and entire government, the impact of that was kinda understated. That pretty much put everything into a state of complete turmoil.
5. On rewatch its pretty clear Ray is Han and Leias other kid. Chewy shoots her a look at the end when she is piloting the MF that made it real clear to me she was Hans daughter.

Really enjoyed the movie and it was a very promising start to the Disney era of Star Wars.

You are right, I was confused on that. The political setup was a bit confusing. Would have been simpler to just keep New Republic as Leias group vs. First Order. Resistance should have had more resources. They said they lost half their xwing fleet at the end which didn't make sense. Should have more backing than First Order.

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Chewy shoots her a look at the end when she is piloting the MF that made it real clear to me she was Hans daughter.

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Kinda a known theory already IMO (the twins, Luke/Leia and Ren/Rey) they almost make it too obvious.

But you cementing it with a look from Chewy is

Stupidest part of movie to me is why the starkiller base wasn't charred to a crisp being that close to a SUN. At first, I tries to justify it by thinking, well, its got shields around it... OK. but then, they drop the shields to let the xwings in, so it would have quickly cooked. Plus the WHOLE concept of just sucking a sun dry is just stupid. Then, they not only shoot it out of the planet, but make it split into 5 or 6 pieces to make a pinpoint accurate shot on different planets over light-years of distance. Plus, if they can build that, then they for sure could build shielding so powerful that nothing could get through the shielding on anything they want. Nothing could touch them. And Im just getting started. BUT, apart from the obvious stupid science stuff, I liked the movie and found it very entertaining.