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re: I remember Skip talking about the cost of bowl games a few years back...
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:38 pm to trombonetiger
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:38 pm to trombonetiger
Lsu should have gotten tax slayer or outback bowl payout 3.5 million not 1.7 million that cancelled game hurt
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:39 pm to drizztiger
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Bowl game will lose money. If the conviction is true and LSU AD gets hamstrung by LSU academics then why not now? Seems hypocritical to me.
OK, so you're one of the guys who wanted to pay out about $25 to $30 million to get rid of Miles and bring in Jimbo, who is not near the man that Miles is and there is no guaranty he could do any better at beating Saban. I get it though I don't agree and can't fault the administration for not going along with such a plan (though they certainly should not have let things get drug through the media for a couple of weeks before doing anything). And I still believe anyone who thought Jimbo was coming here is delusional. Instead, I am guessing we will hear Jimbo is getting an extension/raise pretty soon as a result of this "flirtation" with LSU. Sexton played anyone who thought Jimbo is going to leave the easy confines of the ACC and the recruiting base he has in Florida.
Besides, back to your point, taking a general statement from years ago to try to prove your point is way off base. There's no indication the football team will lose money playing in this bowl game and even if there were, it would pale in comparison to $25 million. And don't forget, we share in the revenues from ALL bowl games the SEC participates in. It's merely a numbers game to say the school loses money to participate in a bowl. That's merely saying the costs the SEC allows to a participating team doesn't cover all the costs, but guess what, factor in LSU's share of all the revenues from all the bowl games the SEC participates in, and LSU isn't losing money be any means.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:39 pm to BeeFense5
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How do you figure? Both head coaches have won a title and one played for 2.
Bobby Bowden won 2 and played for more and for some reason their fanbase wanted him gone. They got Jimbo and then won a title. See how that works? I guess if you were an FSU fan you'd still be upset about Bowden's departure.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:40 pm to drizztiger
You know what is a good way to make sure players don't want to come to your school.
Don't play in a bowl game.
If you get a bowl you play in a bowl. They will find the money for it somewhere.
Don't play in a bowl game.
If you get a bowl you play in a bowl. They will find the money for it somewhere.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:41 pm to drizztiger
oh geez it use to be fun to read this board now all it is full of is shitty whiny little boys crying in their beer because you didn't get your way.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:41 pm to Blanky6715
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You know what is a good way to make sure players don't want to come to your school.
Sadly I think some people hate the coach so much they are hoping this scenario exactly happens. Sad state of the fans at lsu.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:42 pm to Elly23
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oh geez it use to be fun to read this board now all it is full of is shitty whiny little boys crying in their beer because you didn't get your way.
This. It's getting embarrassing.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:42 pm to lsufan251875
quote:This is what I inferred.
What Skip was referring to was the expenses to bring a team/band/cheerleaders to a bowl game is greater than the payout.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:44 pm to TigerinSoCal
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There's no indication the football team will lose money playing in this bowl game and even if there were, it would pale in comparison to $25 million.
Idiots on this board are even easier to spot these days. As soon as I see an "omg $25-30m is so much money!" I know who I'm dealing with.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:44 pm to efrad
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We still get that money if we don't participate in a bowl, don't we?
Yeah, it goes to the whole conference. I like keeping our bowl streak alive
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:47 pm to efrad
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Bobby Bowden won 2 and played for more and for some reason their fanbase wanted him gone. They got Jimbo and then won a title. See how that works? I guess if you were an FSU fan you'd still be upset about Bowden's departure
Over Bowden's final 5 years, he lost 5, 6, 6, 4 and 6 games. Not to mention he was pushing 80 years old.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:49 pm to Old Money
I need a link to that. Obviously, you get less money if you decline, as does every other team. If there isn't some sort of penalty for declining, I'd like to read that for myself.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:53 pm to GRTiger
I'm pretty sure thats how its been. Feel free to link me if i am wrong
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:54 pm to clamdip
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quote:
There's no indication the football team will lose money playing in this bowl game and even if there were, it would pale in comparison to $25 million.
Idiots on this board are even easier to spot these days. As soon as I see an "omg $25-30m is so much money!" I know who I'm dealing with.
Really? What in my statement is incorrect? Have you seen the numbers somewhere that show LSU will lose money playing in the Texas bowl? Or that any such loss is anywhere close to $25 million? And hell yes, $25 million is a ton of money and it DOES NOT look good for a school in a financial crisis to be throwing that kind of money around at such a time, even if it is coming from Boosters. Sorry if you don't get the reality of that situation.
ETA to add: You, like many others here, are simply pissed Miles is still the coach rather than rallying around this team. It is really sad to see so many in this fan base (at least to very "vocal" minority posting here) that hate their coach (and can't appreciate what he has done for this program) and seem to hope for failure rather than root for success.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:54 pm to TigerinSoCal
quote:I'm not going to judge the men. If you feel comfortable judging Les and Jimbo against each other as human beings, then you do that.
OK, so you're one of the guys who wanted to pay out about $25 to $30 million to get rid of Miles and bring in Jimbo, who is not near the man that Miles is
My contention is again, very easy to understand. If LSU academics (red/subsidized) is making decisions for LSU athletics (black/private) then why stop at X, Y or Z? Prior to 1999 you could count on your thumbs the upgrades that LSU made to it's facilities and program. The bowl game is my way pointing out the lack of limits of power.
I promise that at minimum, half the people arguing against me hate bloated government and believe over-stepping powers and oversight are counter-intuitive to progress. Yet when it suits their agenda, no complaints.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:55 pm to Old Money
I've been trying to find that out since I heard Mizzou declined. I couldn't find anything, but that's bullshite if a team can defer the expenses of a bowl, causing every other team's revenue to decrease as as a result, without any sort of penalty.
I was hoping you had read that somewhere.
I was hoping you had read that somewhere.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:56 pm to TigerinSoCal
TigerinSoCal
You make to much since they just want one more thing to cry and whine about as little boy that throw tantrums about things that they don't get. The whole bunch of them need to be put facing in a corner for a few weeks and not be allowed to touch a key board to post on this board.
I think we've had more then enough of this crap and they need to get over it and move on. Holy Crap get your shite together and get behind your team or go away.
You make to much since they just want one more thing to cry and whine about as little boy that throw tantrums about things that they don't get. The whole bunch of them need to be put facing in a corner for a few weeks and not be allowed to touch a key board to post on this board.
I think we've had more then enough of this crap and they need to get over it and move on. Holy Crap get your shite together and get behind your team or go away.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:57 pm to drizztiger
quote:well this is just false. They always send the whole band.
That they cost more money than they earn in return. It's reasons we haven't sent full Tiger Band to some bowls.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:58 pm to drizztiger
we get $1.275 million plus travel expenses and 1/15th of all bowl revenue
quote:
For bowl games providing receipts which result in a balance
between $1,500,000 and $3,999,999, the participating institution
shall retain $1,275,000, plus a travel allowance as
determined by the SEC Executive Committee The remainder
shall be remitted to the Commissioner and shall be divided
into 15 equal shares, with one share to the Conference and
one share to each member institution.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:02 pm to TigerinSoCal
quote:Reality is LSU athletics gives money to LSU academics. What was it last year? $10 million gift?
And hell yes, $25 million is a ton of money and it DOES NOT look good for a school in a financial crisis to be throwing that kind of money around at such a time, even if it is coming from Boosters. Sorry if you don't get the reality of that situation.
So it DOES NOT look good for a profit making entity to gift millions yearly to a poorly run system? So therefore the poorly run bankrupt system should dictate how the gifting and black entity makes decisions?
This is what is what is wrong with Louisiana. Backasswards and people defend it.
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