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re: The Right Decision was made, however horrible the process getting to it was.

Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:57 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:57 am to
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Because it's more exciting than what we currently have?

Not a good way to look at it.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54266 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:00 am to
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It is not acceptable to lose 3 straight by double digits.

It's not acceptable how shitty LSU and Les' record is in the month of November (you know when it matters) over the past 4 seasons.

LSU will continue to win 7-8 games on talent alone, regardless of coach. Spare me whatever BS in the past you want.. LSU is more established now and can be so much better.. but by all means.. let's keep settling for 7-9 win seasons now.. Let's just accept. It's absolute BS. LSU could be such a premier power program, but we won't see that until Miles is out.. because his philosophy since 2008 is not changing.. and I don't see LSU winning any championships with it.. and the man won't change. He's the most frustrating HC in all of college football.


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Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:03 am to
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It is not acceptable to lose 3 straight by double digits.

Everyone expected losses this season...so just because they were in a row that's worse?

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It's not acceptable how shitty LSU and Les' record is in the month of November (you know when it matters) over the past 4 seasons.

Ok.

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but we won't see that until Miles is out.. because his philosophy since 2008 is not changing.

Oh you know...like two seasons ago when we set offensive SEC records
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6544 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:04 am to
I put this in another thread yesterday:

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Alexander confirms reports that the final decision on Miles’ future did not come until after a halftime meeting during the Nov. 29 game against Texas A&M, though he says the decision had “pretty much been made” a few days earlier.



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“The public at large really doesn’t differentiate where the money comes from,” he says. “No matter how you explain it, it’s still a $15 million to $25 million decision that needs to be factored into the overall equation.



Here's where I have issue, regardless of the outcome the process was horrible. Like any negotiation or business decision, everyone has their price points. If the price point was too high and the decision was "pretty much made" then why let this shite show continue? Money was an issue Saturday but not on Monday? Why leak this to the media? (Isn't that still whats assumed to have happened?)

Work this out behind closed doors not in the town square with everyone looking in and judging. Pathetic management.

You can debate the strategy till the cows come home but the execution was pathetic.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:07 am to
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At the defensive coordinator, silly.


He knew that...or maybe he didn't now that I think about it.

He was just being a horses arse...again.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:07 am to
The NegaTigers were not happy with Jimbo when he was our OC, now they want him as HC. NegaTigers are never happy unless you win the NC every year, and then they will find something they don't like.
Posted by GoldenTrumpeter
Member since Nov 2015
226 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:09 am to
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The Right Decision was made


Bull effing chit
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6069 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:13 am to
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two seasons ago when we set offensive SEC records


With two all world receivers, an NFL QB, and one of the best RB in LSU history. The philosophy didn't change, they had an extremely rare combo of talent that made their convoluted offense work.

They have the RB for next year... if they possess the QB and WRs to make it work is yet to be seen. If they make the jump next year, it could happen.

Pretty fricked up though that it takes that combo to get good production out of the total offense.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54266 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:17 am to
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Brettesaurus Rex



At the end of the day a shitty decision was made. It was time to move on and we didn't.

Now we are stuck with a coach who knows the admins don't want him here. A coach that refuses to change and has a terrible OC that is also his good friend.

It was time to move on and we didn't.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11309 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:39 am to
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We could've had Jimbo and Muschamp.


And Muschamp would be on the way out already.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22403 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:43 am to
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Why are people excited about that?


You just flat out sound like half of the people who show up for the party, tailgate, and give their ticket away. Little to no understanding of the game of football, or just enough to sound like it. And, that's OK, because it takes all types to support the kind of programs that win NC's.

Jimbo is hands-on with the most important position on the field. For you to even ask why would people be excited about that puts you in a category of posters I rarely even bother to give a response, but it needs to be said.

Jimbo developed 3 QBs that won NC's with 3 different head coaches. Think about that. Really let that sink in. And while you're thinking about it, go ahead and put that Crimson A on his hat in a couple of years and think about him kicking your team's arse for the next 10 after that.

Before the season started the SECN had a round table with head coaches and were asked, "Outside of the QB position, what is the most important position on the field?" Without hesitation, Saban responded, "QB!" Yes, Saban is a defensive guru, but don't forget, he won a high school state championship playing QB. The man knows what it takes to win, and he knows how to find someone who can coach that position.

Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:51 am to
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The philosophy didn't change,

You people are ridiculous. Bash the "philosophy" when it doesn't work, but when it does it's just because he got "lucky with talent". lolok. The only times it "hasn't worked" is when he's had a freshman or sophomore starting QB. I'd imagine success rates aren't fantastic for any team with that. His downfall has been preparing and keeping good QB's, not any "philosophy."
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:53 am to
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This entire time I couldn't believe this administration was willing to pay that much money to push out the best coach in LSU history, right now. You're telling me that his transgressions are that bad you couldn't him a single game longer? Regardless of who came up with the $$, it's still real money people. I don't know what the payout drops to next season, but with the players coming back and the recruiting class coming, it was a no brainer to give this one more go. The effects of a coaching change run deep...and who knows the true effects it could have had on this team.


I'll reluctantly agree.

It wasn't the right time.

And if it was going to be done, it needed to be done the way that UGA did it -- quietly and without 8 million leaks to the media (which are still ongoing).

Speaking of UGA, they owe Richt a lot less than we would have owed Miles.

quote:

The University of Georgia must pay Mark Richt $4.1 million for firing him, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Thursday.

That figure is based on a verbal agreement reached between Georgia and Richt earlier this year, which the coach never signed. Athletic director Greg McGarity said the school will honor that agreement.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:59 am to
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It was Trump vs. Sanders and Sanders came out on top


Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22403 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:11 am to
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His downfall has been preparing and keeping good QB's, not any "philosophy."


First off, it took 3 years in the system for Miles to trust NFL talent enough to attempt to coordinate a passing game. If you recall, the season before that, we had one first down to beat Bama. We ran the ball 3 times into the LOS in a game where Mett had completed 7 third downs in a row by passing.

So, don't come here spouting about his philosophy not being a problem. The man leaves himself no margin for error. And if his philosophy, in your own words, lacks preparing and keeping good QB's, I'm not sure why you would defend a man who has not developed the most important position on the field in 11 years of trying.
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:25 am to
We'll see about that Pumpersaurus Rex.

Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
763 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:53 am to
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First off, it took 3 years in the system for Miles to trust NFL talent enough to attempt to coordinate a passing game. If you recall, the season before that, we had one first down to beat Bama. We ran the ball 3 times into the LOS in a game where Mett had completed 7 third downs in a row by passing.


Not arguing whether this all should have happened, etc., or that Miles teams have looked like well oiled offensive machines. They have not. Just that I see crap like this a lot.
Guy throws for 7 out of 8 third downs and he's a stubborn, run only coach.
I guess he should throw for 10 out of 8?!
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 11:56 am
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:53 am to
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The Right Decision was made

No


Worst 3 year span at LSU since we hired Saban

Miles will be fired mid-season, in order to prevent the same drama from occurring next year, then we will just twist in the wind hoping to land a good coach
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22403 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Guy throws for 7 out of 8 third downs and he's a stubborn, run only coach


They were all passing situations, because he ran on first and second down. We HAD to throw.

And when it counted the most, after all that success, he still couldn't pull the trigger.

He had All-Pro NFL receivers and RB. As a matter of fact, half of those throws for first down were to his RB.

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well oiled offensive machines


It's not just the 3 losses, or the opponents in those 3 losses, go back and rewatch our offense when down by 2 or more scores with 10 or less minutes in the game. On each occasion, we line up at the LOS, stare at the sidelines like meerkats with the game clock running, and let the play clock run down to 0, calling a valuable TO on a first or second down.

Using the word coordination in conjunction with a Les Miles offense should be punishable by death.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28190 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:20 pm to
My only regret is that I have but one downvote to give.
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