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re: Has there ever been a head coach fired that never had a losing season?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:14 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:14 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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could live with finishing second more than a few games a year. Curry at Bama
And who did they hire after? And after that? Bama may hate losing as you say but they suck at hiring coaches. Saban fell in their laps. They had nothing big to do in that hire but shake their heads in amazement at their luck. Don't make that program out to be any more than they are- 1 lucky hire away from being simply a has-been with great old Bear stories.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:14 pm to JohnnyBgood
Mike Price.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:17 pm to Will2nd
John cooper Ohio state - couldn't best Michigan
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:18 pm to geauxjo
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And who did they hire after? And after that? Bama may hate losing as you say but they suck at hiring coaches. Saban fell in their laps. They had nothing big to do in that hire but shake their heads in amazement at their luck. Don't make that program out to be any more than they are- 1 lucky hire away from being simply a has-been with great old Bear stories.
Absolutely agree with you. They shite the bed hiring coaches after Curry and prob made a mistake firing him, but it doesn't change the fact that they made an effort for excellence. We, at this time, have decided that mediocrity is acceptable.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:18 pm to JohnnyBgood
Mike Dubose
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:22 pm to JohnnyBgood
George O'Leary - Notre Dame 
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:24 pm to Paul Allen
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Frank Solich
EXCELLENT first response... that was the one I came to post when I saw the topic.
Dude was 9-2 (regular season) and fired BEFORE the bowl game because he was deemed not good enough to follow the Osborne legend.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:25 pm to JohnnyBgood
nevermind
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:34 pm to Gorilla Ball
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John cooper Ohio state - couldn't best Michigan
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1988 Ohio State 4–6–1 2–5–1 T–7th
1989 Ohio State 8–4 6–2 T–3rd L Hall of Fame 21
1990 Ohio State 7–4–1 5–2–1 5th L Liberty
1991 Ohio State 8–4 5–3 T–3rd L Hall of Fame
1992 Ohio State 8–3–1 5–2–1 2nd L Florida Citrus 19 18
1993 Ohio State 10–1–1 6–1–1 T–1st W Holiday 10 11
1994 Ohio State 9–4 6–2 2nd L Florida Citrus 9 14
1995 Ohio State 11–2 7–1 2nd L Florida Citrus 8 6
1996 Ohio State 11–1 7–1 T–1st W Rose 2 2
1997 Ohio State 10–3 6–2 T–2nd L Sugar† 12 12
1998 Ohio State 11–1 7–1 T–1st W Sugar† 2 2
1999 Ohio State 6–6 3–5 T–8th
2000 Ohio State 8–4 5–3 4th L Outback
Ohio State: 111–43–4
Yes. Amazing winning record, no losing seasons in 13 years.
Could not beat Michigan...
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:38 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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hite the bed hiring coaches after Curry and prob made a mistake firing him, but it doesn't change the fact that they made an effort for excellence. We, at this time, have decided that mediocrity is acceptable.
Listen. I'm off the Les train after Sat. We just seem lost. But at the same time we aren't mediocre. 2-4 loss seasons are good. It's just that I think most would agree we've trended toward under-achieving given everything at our disposal. Not sure Less had the ability to change this far into his coaching span.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:40 pm to geauxjo
What about Charlie mac?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:43 pm to alumni95
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Dude was 9-2 (regular season) and fired BEFORE the bowl game because he was deemed not good enough to follow the Osborne legend.
And they're still looking. A demand for excellence is fine, but a coaching search is always dicey. Timing and blind luck play so much of a part. When Miles goes- no matter when that is- it won't nearly be as some fans think- that we can just snap our fingers and the best will line up. It just doesn't happen that way very often regardless of the school. Ask USC, Texas, Nebraska, Miami, Tennessee.... Heck ask Bama how many times they blew it until Saban fell in their laps.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:46 pm to JohnnyBgood
WHO never....
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:56 pm to JohnnyBgood
Tommy Bowden was basically forced out after never having a losing season at Clemson. I think they were invited to 9 straight bowls, but his records weren't that good (lots of 4-5 loss seasons). He resigned during the middle of his last season at 3-3. He didn't even have a losing season at Tulane.
While we're talking about Bowdens, Terry Bowden never had a full losing season at Auburn either. He was forced out while they were 1-5 in his last season. They won the SEC West and almost won the SECCG the year before.
As for Pelini, that dude got two unsportsmanlike penalties in like 30 seconds on his team's last drive while they were in position to possibly win the game this weekend. He's nuts.
While we're talking about Bowdens, Terry Bowden never had a full losing season at Auburn either. He was forced out while they were 1-5 in his last season. They won the SEC West and almost won the SECCG the year before.
As for Pelini, that dude got two unsportsmanlike penalties in like 30 seconds on his team's last drive while they were in position to possibly win the game this weekend. He's nuts.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:59 pm to geauxjo
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Listen. I'm off the Les train after Sat. We just seem lost. But at the same time we aren't mediocre. 2-4 loss seasons are good. It's just that I think most would agree we've trended toward under-achieving given everything at our disposal. Not sure Less had the ability to change this far into his coaching span.
Couldn't agree more. With the exception that 2-4 loss seasons are acceptable.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:00 pm to Big EZ Tiger
And Bobby Bowden was forced to retire at Florida State.
So I suppose you could say that all three Bowdens were forced out or fired after never posting a losing season.
So I suppose you could say that all three Bowdens were forced out or fired after never posting a losing season.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:05 pm to JohnnyBgood
Firing a coach that wins a lot but can't (or no longer can) win it all can have disastrous effects.
Seems like at least some of the names listed in this thread a common theme - following up a "legend" or an uber successful coach. A lot of times coaches brought into these situations can't win with a portion of the fan base.
Of course having a coach overstay his welcome can also have bad effects (i.e.: Paterno, Bowden at Fl. State, etc.)
Seems like at least some of the names listed in this thread a common theme - following up a "legend" or an uber successful coach. A lot of times coaches brought into these situations can't win with a portion of the fan base.
Of course having a coach overstay his welcome can also have bad effects (i.e.: Paterno, Bowden at Fl. State, etc.)
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:06 pm to JohnnyBgood
A little different story in the NFL: John Fox, head coach of the Denver Broncos got fired after a 12-4 season last year.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:35 pm to Harry Caray
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Bo Pelini?
Pelini's seasons at Nebraska:
2008: 9-4
2009: 10-4
2010: 10-4
2011: 9-4
2012: 10-4
2013: 9-4
2014: 9-3 (fired before the bowl game)
ended only one year (2008) without being ranked
Great call
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:36 pm to km
Richt's predecessor at UGA only had one 5-6 season (his first year), then had 4 winning seasons in a row and was fired with a 40-19 record in 5 years.
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