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Does anyone else think Cam Cameron is not the right person for OC?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:41 pm
I was talking to some people on another site and they were all saying Les Miles is basically the offensive coordinator, so it wouldn't matter if they fired Cam and hired Mike Leach. I seem to remember things being different when Crowton or anyone else was the OC though. It also heavily depends on the quarterback.
I think Harris has a similar level of talent to Mettenberger, but I think he's taking too long to develop in part because of the current OC/QB coach. I don't think it's Miles' fault when the QB goes 6/19. You either have to look at the QB coach/OC or the player himself. Am I the one who's crazy here?
I realize the rest of the offense has something to do with that, but they have talent too. Does Les butt into offensive line position issues?
I think Harris has a similar level of talent to Mettenberger, but I think he's taking too long to develop in part because of the current OC/QB coach. I don't think it's Miles' fault when the QB goes 6/19. You either have to look at the QB coach/OC or the player himself. Am I the one who's crazy here?
I realize the rest of the offense has something to do with that, but they have talent too. Does Les butt into offensive line position issues?
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 9:45 pm
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:43 pm to BayouBlogger
The Baltimore Ravens won the Super Bowl when he was the OC... After they fired him. Enough said.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:44 pm to BayouBlogger
I think he is. He's been successful other places. I still believe Miles makes him run a vanilla offense if the quarterback isn't ready
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:45 pm to BayouBlogger
Les Miles is the OC.. we changed oc and the offense looks the same
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:58 pm to BayouBlogger
How many OCs would that be under Miles if Cam is let go? Maybe its the head man and not the coordinator?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:04 pm to BayouBlogger
That fact that you are asking this question tells me you don't get it. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO THE OC IS, MILES CONTROLS THE OFFENSE.
It is amazing that we've had 4 OC's in 10 years and all of them had the toss dive in their playbook. Please use some common sense. Someone earlier posted Les Miles offensive numbers when he was the OC at Oklahoma State in the 90's, it is amazingly similar to what our current run/pass numbers look like today.
It is amazing that we've had 4 OC's in 10 years and all of them had the toss dive in their playbook. Please use some common sense. Someone earlier posted Les Miles offensive numbers when he was the OC at Oklahoma State in the 90's, it is amazingly similar to what our current run/pass numbers look like today.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:05 pm to BayouBlogger
Since crowton it's been all CLM
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:06 pm to BayouBlogger
Yes, I don't think Cameron is the right guy for the job.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:09 pm to BayouBlogger
Seriously, what will it take for y'all to understand that Miles is running the Offense?
I thought it was a widely known but perhaps not. Sheeeeeeeeet.
I thought it was a widely known but perhaps not. Sheeeeeeeeet.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:22 pm to BayouBlogger
Cam sucks. There's a reason the Dolphins got rid of his butt after their worst season in history.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:48 pm to BayouBlogger
I think Les Miles is the OC. Sweet deal, because we could paying somebody ZERO instead of the $1.5 million per year to Les's buddy.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:02 pm to BayouBlogger
Offense has been shades of the same thing IMO but I also think he just gets out coached by Saban. I'm no coach of course, but it's dumbfounding how he manages to play right into Alabama's hands fairly regularly.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:06 pm to BayouBlogger
You can change OC every year and everything would look the same. We can have Tom Herman as QB coach/OC and nothing would change.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:13 pm to BayouBlogger
Our passing game has been putrid for the better part of eight years (2013 was the exception where we finished at #45 in passing offense with Mett, OBJ and Landry). That was Cam's first year. We finished at #116 last year. We are currently at #117.
So under Cam, we are averaging the #92 pass offense in 3 years so far.
Our average was #102 for the three years prior to Cam's arrival. So we went from putrid to...well, putrid. Miles is such a ground and pound, old-school formation-type, that I don't know that the offensive coordinator really matters.
So under Cam, we are averaging the #92 pass offense in 3 years so far.
Our average was #102 for the three years prior to Cam's arrival. So we went from putrid to...well, putrid. Miles is such a ground and pound, old-school formation-type, that I don't know that the offensive coordinator really matters.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:18 pm to BayouBlogger
Will just copy and paste what I put in another thread:
This is the best it will ever be under Miles. Les and Cameron go way back and Miles will put a decent amount of trust in him. Cameron supposedly has a penchant for developing QBs (something Miles isn't known for) and that seems to be the case thus far with Mett and Harris. This is conjecture, but I think Cameron does about as good of a job as anyone could reasonably expect within the confines of Miles' demands. I'm also inclined to believe that not a lot of up-and-coming OCs would be enthralled with the prospect of coaching under him if they have other opportunities available at elite programs.
This is the best it will ever be under Miles. Les and Cameron go way back and Miles will put a decent amount of trust in him. Cameron supposedly has a penchant for developing QBs (something Miles isn't known for) and that seems to be the case thus far with Mett and Harris. This is conjecture, but I think Cameron does about as good of a job as anyone could reasonably expect within the confines of Miles' demands. I'm also inclined to believe that not a lot of up-and-coming OCs would be enthralled with the prospect of coaching under him if they have other opportunities available at elite programs.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:42 pm to BayouBlogger
IF....IF Les doesn't let Cam call the offense like others believe to be the case then NO! If Les is calling the plays then stop paying Cam.
IF...IF Les is calling the plays or influencing the offense because he doesn't believe in the QB like others have stated they believe then NO! It's Cam's job to develop the QB
IF...Cam can't show Les that he is capable of running/owning the offense such that Les is willing to let it go then No!
Finally....if Les just refuses to hear Cam and let him run the offense then he himself should go....so No!
IF...IF Les is calling the plays or influencing the offense because he doesn't believe in the QB like others have stated they believe then NO! It's Cam's job to develop the QB
IF...Cam can't show Les that he is capable of running/owning the offense such that Les is willing to let it go then No!
Finally....if Les just refuses to hear Cam and let him run the offense then he himself should go....so No!
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:16 am to BayouBlogger
We recruit predominantly out of the home state of Louisiana. It's built on power running and feature great athletes at the rb position. I hate that we don't utilize more skill players in the passing game, but that's not our system.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:25 am to BayouBlogger
How many OCs need to be made into scapegoats?
How many OCs and nothing changes offensively before people realize it's the one constant?
We were no offensive juggernaut in 2011 and our OC had come up under Urban Meyer.
The lack of a short/intermediate passing games means lower probability throws that results in lower completion percentages
How many OCs and nothing changes offensively before people realize it's the one constant?
We were no offensive juggernaut in 2011 and our OC had come up under Urban Meyer.
The lack of a short/intermediate passing games means lower probability throws that results in lower completion percentages
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:13 am to BayouBlogger
I think Miles needs to change
All our OC's and game plans under Miles look the same
All our OC's and game plans under Miles look the same
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:24 am to BayouBlogger
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