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Was It Rape? Or Was It Regrettable Drunk Sex?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:46 pm
I saw this article, figured it would hit a few OT triggers. Especially SFP... someone send up the batsignal.
Here's How I Was Raped
Some of the highlights...
Discuss amongst yourselves.
Here's How I Was Raped
Some of the highlights...
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My self-worth was stolen from me by someone I previously trusted. In hindsight, it’s painfully obvious that he did me wrong. He violated me. He is to blame.
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It’s first semester sophomore year. A friend and classmate asks me to be his date to his team’s fall formal, held at a final club. My first date event! How could I say no to dressing up and getting free booze with Harvard athletes?
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That night, we get to the final club, and we’re each handed a bottle of Rosé. I look around and don't recognize any of the girls. Take a sip from the bottle. I have a handful of friends on the team, but they’re lost in the sea of made-up girls and rowdy guys. Take a sip from the bottle. I stay by his side. We mingle with other couples, take a sip. The guys start singing a repetitive chant, I don’t know what to do. Smile and nod with the beat, I guess. Take a sip. The bottle is gone. I’m 5’3”, 115 pounds. I don’t remember leaving the final club.
I also have no memory of the walk to his House, or the walk up the stairs, or the walk to his room. Next thing I do remember, I’m naked in his bed. I see his face—he’s on top of me, he’s inside of me, he’s sweaty. I vaguely realize what’s happening, and I explicitly realize that I don’t want to be where I currently am. Despite my confused state, I have an overwhelming instinct to leave. I get him off of me, and look for a way out. I walk into his roommate’s single, still naked. Wrong place. I walk through the common room, still naked, out the front door and into the hallway. I walk down the hall. I sit down and lean on a wall, maybe someone’s door. I black out again.
The next morning, I wake up alone in a foreign common room in a t-shirt that isn’t mine. I have bruises staining my sore legs, evidence of a nasty fall or two—evidence to anyone I was with that I was too drunk to consent. Still drunk, head pounding, throat dry, I quickly remember, in blurred bits and pieces, what happened. I’m confused, I don’t have any of my belongings, and I want to go home. So I do.
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Alcohol is an integral part of the college experience and the society we live in, for better or for worse. Alcohol also makes people more vulnerable. But everyone has the right to get as drunk as they want to without the threat of being raped. It’s easy to understand, but not so easy immediately after you’ve experienced an assault: Victims are not guilty for being drunk. Victims did not “put themselves in that situation” as a result of having been drunk. Victims should not ever feel ashamed of having been drunk.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:47 pm to LSUBoo
"It's always rape"
-SJWs
-SJWs
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:49 pm to LSUBoo
I'm so glad this shite wasn't so prevalent when I was in college. 90% of us would be fricked.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:51 pm to LSUBoo
If she isn't lying, that sounds like sexual assault. And I'm almost as quick to throw the bullshite flag up on these as SFP.
If she was actually in and out of consciousness and wandering around naked not knowing what's going on, she couldn't consent.
If she was actually in and out of consciousness and wandering around naked not knowing what's going on, she couldn't consent.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:51 pm to LSUBoo
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I’m naked in his bed. I see his face—he’s on top of me, he’s inside of me, he’s sweaty
i think i remember reading this book.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:52 pm to LSUBoo
these always boil down to this
girls cannot be held responsible for their actions while they are drunk
but guys should always be held accountable when they are drunk
both guy and girl are drunk, they have sex, girl regrets it, she screams rape, guys life gets ruined
this kind of stuff pisses me off
girls cannot be held responsible for their actions while they are drunk
but guys should always be held accountable when they are drunk
both guy and girl are drunk, they have sex, girl regrets it, she screams rape, guys life gets ruined
this kind of stuff pisses me off
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:55 pm to LSUBoo
Sex robots...its the only way
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:56 pm to LSUBoo
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Victims are not guilty for being drunk. Victims did not “put themselves in that situation” as a result of having been drunk. Victims should not ever feel ashamed of having been drunk.
So you are allowed to get blackout and assume that people are just going to take care of you, and if they don't you have no fault in the matter? Give me a fricking break. No one has the balls to take responsibility for themselves anymore. Its never my fault, only always your fault! Maybe this situation shouldnt have gone down the way it did, but to say that the girl has no fault in the issue because shes too stupid to know when she is getting sloppy and not responsible for what happens is insane. I guarantee the guy was drunk, is he also not at fault because he was drunk as well?
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:56 pm to LSUBoo
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Viviana I. Maymi ’16 is a neurobiology concentrator in Mather House.
Yeah, it´s clear she wasn´t an English major.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:57 pm to LSUBoo
What happened to taking responsibility for your actions? Don't get wasted if you turn into a peenfiend after 2 cranberry and vodkas.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:57 pm to LSUBoo
Rape is rape, period. It doesn't matter how drunk or regrettable or consensual it may have been, it's still rape.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:01 pm to LSUBoo
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Victims are not guilty for being drunk. Victims did not “put themselves in that situation” as a result of having been drunk. Victims should not ever feel ashamed of having been drunk.
quote:Holy fricking contradiction! WTF?
Likewise, at a party, a perpetrator knows he is impaired, and should be held accountable for the drunken assumptions he makes and acts on. He alone is to blame for the assault—not the alcohol, and certainly not the victim.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:04 pm to LSUBoo
That's hot.
Well, until she started getting remorseful and tried to justify bad, perhaps regrettable choices she made by accusing someone of a crime they did not commit.
Well, until she started getting remorseful and tried to justify bad, perhaps regrettable choices she made by accusing someone of a crime they did not commit.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:04 pm to LSUBoo
Ok, so she says shes too drunk and she couldn't consent but what if hes too drunk too and couldn't tell how drunk she was but at that time she said "yes, lets have sex". Now she wakes up in the morning and regrets it and presses charges and his life in down the drain. I'm sure this happens pretty often.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:05 pm to LSUBoo
Yes it was rape ... You can't give consent she you are intoxicated
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:06 pm to LSUBoo
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Alcohol is an integral part of the college experience and the society we live in, for better or for worse.
True, but you have to know your limits.
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Alcohol also makes people more vulnerable.
Correct, which again is why you must use it responsibly.
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But everyone has the right to get as drunk as they want to without the threat of being raped.
So if he was blasted too, how is he supposed to know that you are too drunk? Should he not also have the right to get too drunk to not worry about the possibility that you are not in a sound state of mind? Why is it is his responsibility to to protect himself when he is drinking and not yours too?
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Victims did not “put themselves in that situation” as a result of having been drunk.
If this were true, then public intoxication would not be a crime.
I'm not saying that I can't be empathetic for this person, but it's truly sad that we have created a victim culture totally devoid of personal responsibility.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:07 pm to LSUBoo
If both people are blackout drunk it's one thing, if one is and the other's nearly so er it's another.
Also if anyone had sex with her after she passed out, that's kind of unquestionably rape.
Also if anyone had sex with her after she passed out, that's kind of unquestionably rape.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:07 pm to LSUBoo
Some rapey mofos up in here.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to LSUBoo
we all do a lot of dumb shite when we are drunk. She might have consented and the guy might have been drunk to, what is to say that she didn't rape him? You are still responsible for your actions when you are drunk. If I drive drunk and get pulled over, I can't blame alcohol affecting my decision to drive and get out of it, if I kill someone when I am drunk, I am still responsible for the aftermath. Why is sex any different?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to LSUBoo
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Harvard
Stopped reading here.
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