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Will the John Wick trilogy end up being better than the Matrix trilogy?

Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:52 am
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:52 am
John Wick and the Matrix are closely linked. The two directors of John Wick worked as Reeves' stunt doubles in the Matrix movies.

John Wick is being made into a trilogy. I'd argue that the first John Wick is a work of art just like the first Matrix. There's a lot of similarities between the first Matrix and the first John Wick. Both movies were successful but not necessarily huge hits. They were sort of ahead of their time and developed a cult following which, in the case of the Matrix, led to an immensely successful movie franchise. I see the same opportunity for the John Wick franchise.

However, the Wachowskis went off the deep end with the second and third Matrix movies, and since then their movies have sucked when compared to the first Matrix. In fact, nothing they've filmed since Bound and the first Matrix have come close to being as good as those two movies.

Will the directing team behind John Wick lose themselves in movies two and three like the Wachowskis due to fame, bigger budgets, and higher expectations? Or, will they perhaps end up making one of the best film trilogies ever?

For some weird reason, I think when we look back and compare the Matrix trilogy to the John Wick trilogy, John Wick will stand out as the FAR better trilogy. I truly believe the John Wick universe will prove to be one of the best trilogies ever filmed.

Fingers crossed.



This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 8:57 am
Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:55 am to
quote:

For some weird reason, I think when we look back and compare the Matrix trilogy to the John Wick trilogy, John Wick will stand out as the FAR better trilogy.




i dont think this is a wild prediction at all

i think the matrix trilogy sucked

the first movie was amazing and the individual movies were entertaining for their action, but the trilogy storyline went a little crazy

John Wick will be the better trilogy if only because its not trying to be too much bigger than what it is: really great action
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66527 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:12 am to
the john wick sequel will probably be a turd and there wont be a 3rd

matrix sequels sucked shite
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
4771 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:49 am to
Read the title and knew right off the bat who the OP was.

Open the thread just to downvote it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56779 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:30 am to
As long as one of the directors doesn't become a chick, it will be a huge victory for humankind.

I don't think any of the Wicks will be as good as the Matrix, but collectively, they could be better than the Matrix trilogy. I think that's what you were getting at in the OP.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37535 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:54 am to
John Wick has a chance to get better, not worse, we just don't know yet (The Matrix honestly had the same chance.)

The world-building they did with Wick was fantastic and they have to ride that line between exploring just a bit more, creating more intrigue, more interest, and a deeper world. There are some cool directions they should go.

The film should move away from revenge and focus on another primal instinct. Maybe protection this time?
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:58 am to
I'm hoping they don't make any sequels and just let John Wick stand alone as is.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:20 am to
The John Wick trilogy does not have to do much to be better than The Matrix trilogy.

However, The Matrix is hands down better than the first installment of John Wick.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 11:35 am to
The first Matrix was way better than in my opinion. John Wick was an action movie, The Matrix made you think and did things with cameras that were way beyond what had been done before. It was my generations star wars as far as special effects.

But the rest of the Matix movies were beyond bad, so I could easily see that the Wick movies could overtake with a 3 movie average.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 2:33 pm to
The first Matrix movie will be better than any the John Wick movies by a long shot. The other two Matrix movies actually took away from the first one.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4030 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 3:19 pm to
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John Wick trilogy


Terrible idea, just leave it be
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15333 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 5:38 pm to
Matrix 1 >> John Wick 1 + whatever they will do with 2 and 3.

I enjoyed John Wick 1, but knowing that sequels are likely not as good, there is no way it will be on the same level. Plus JW1 was really just a well made action flick...nothing at all more.

Matrix 1 was the epitome of revolutionary for the sci-fi movie genre.





Still not a bad thought though. Worthy of discussion.
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

the first Matrix and the first John Wick. Both movies were successful but not necessarily huge hits.


The Matrix was absolutely a huge hit
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

For some weird reason, I think when we look back and compare the Matrix trilogy to the John Wick trilogy, John Wick will stand out as the FAR better trilogy. I truly believe the John Wick universe will prove to be one of the best trilogies ever filmed.


The first John Wick is a classic "action" flick and I hope the writers and directors don't go overboard (the first one is pretty far out there as it is, but the exaggerations were all action related) with a bunch of crazy crap. If they stay with the over the top action stuff, they'll be fine.
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