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Neurotheology Team Proves “God Helmet” Is Real

Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:30 pm
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A team of neurotheology researchers have replicated and confirmed the results of the iconic “God Helmet” experiment. The apparatus, originally developed by renowned neuroscientists, Stanley Koren and Michael Persinger, generates weak magnetic fields around the test subject’s temporal lobes, and elicits a distinct set of experiential phenomena in the participant’s brain, including: altered mystic states, visions of God, and the feeling of a sensed God-like presence. This new independent study confirms that the effects from the God Helmet experiment are not due to suggestion or suggestibility in subjects, and provide the first scientific verification of the technique’s direct influence on the brain. 80% had feelings of a “sensed presence”, and the other 20% had either minor effects or none.
Well, if the Journal Of Consciousness Exploration and Research says it's kosher, who am I to argue?

LINK
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:31 pm to
I don't even know what I just read.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:32 pm to
I think this manipulation sort of highlights the underlying idea that some people are predisposed to religiosity and some are not. Sort of a counterproductive mechanism if you're, say, god.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35722 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:33 pm to
So...Anti-God helmet.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:35 pm to
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experiential phenomena in the participant’s brain, including: altered mystic states, visions of God, and the feeling of a sensed God-like presence


Sooooo DMT in helmet form.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:35 pm to
Sounds like fun. Much easier than eating those nasty mushrooms.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:35 pm to


"Give him an extra dollar."
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28901 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:46 pm to
God is pissed that someone took his helmet and he knows who you are.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19378 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:51 pm to
What I'm really taking from this is that there is a helmet that will make you all fricked up and you can pass a drug test the next day.

This is progress people.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21879 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:53 pm to
So basically an instant massive dose of psychedelics without the hassle of chemical risks?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:56 pm to
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the Journal Of Consciousness Exploration and Research


You mean, the JOCER (pronounced, "joker")?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:00 pm to
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neurotheology


This is a thing?
Posted by Sev09
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
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A team of neurotheology researchers have


GRAMMAARRR!

Article debunked.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2931 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:53 pm to
I don't remember if the previous experiments / scientists had a decidedly atheist bent, or if a slew of atheists grabbed on to the results as proof that religious experiences were easily induced hallucinations. But the wording of this article suggests these researchers set this experiment up in a fairly open minded manner, and don't seem to be jumping to conclusions as to what this means... which is the way it should be. It's important to try to keep biases (in either direction) from influencing conclusions.

On the one hand it may be said that the mind can easily be influenced to see things (whether by influence of magnets, drugs, etc.). I'm sure it's even possible to tweak such influences so that those under the influence are more likely to perceive what is suggested. Because perceptions can be created / influenced via this method, though, it doesn't logically follow that all similar experiences can only be created by a similar mechanism, and it doesn't invalidate the experiences of others that don't match our own. It could be easily argued, after all, that God created everything and is in everything, including the ability to experience experimentally induced perceptions. In this context, perceptions-- real or imaginary-- are still only data points and we would still have to choose what such experiences mean to us and choose to grow towards or away from God. Note: this thread isn't the place to argue that. It's probably the main argument that comes out of a topic like this, but the experiments, in themselves, are currently inconclusive.

In a similar vein, other scientists who work with hallucinagens have suggested the paradigm that the human mind and senses have evolved to filter out much of the reality around us. Typical healthy men & women only visually perceive the smallest sliver of EM frequencies (what we call visible light); other creatures-- some insects, for instance-- evolved to utilize UV or IR radiation / light moreso than the visible spectrum. This is just one example. The perceived advantage to filtering out parts of reality would be that too much data is overwhelming. We've evolved to focus on what helps us most and gives us the greatest opportunities to survive and succeed as a species.

With this in mind, that specially tuned magnets can alter perception does not lead to answers so much as it leads to more questions: are such perceptions based purely on internal phenomena and combinations of memories, etc., or do the magnets alter the fine tuning of our brain in a way that makes it pick up signals that it normally doesn't?



Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:01 pm to
Well of course they sensed a presence. They had magnetic fields on their damn heads.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Neurotheology


Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:13 pm to
what are the stats on the god helm?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:38 pm to
Rockwell's Retro Encabulator:

Retro Encabulator
Posted by Mullet Flap
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Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:48 pm to
Telling people that their super spirit in the sky senses are off? And can be explained by a perfectly natural phenomena? On here?



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