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Raging debate with a friend of mine. Please offer insight!
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:19 pm
Could guys like Red Grange start in the NFL today. Could Babe Ruth start on a baseball team today, etc. You get the gist. I say no.
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:19 pm to Geekboy
No
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:21 pm to Geekboy
No.
advances in nutrition and the level of competition are totally different.
Some could compete, but not dominate by any means.
advances in nutrition and the level of competition are totally different.
Some could compete, but not dominate by any means.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:21 pm to Geekboy
Those guys did not workout or do any conditioning.babe Ruth wouldn't even know the pitch had passed him by.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:22 pm to Geekboy
No they suck.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:22 pm to Geekboy
Yes, Babe Ruth could play today.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:22 pm to Geekboy
No
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:23 pm to Geekboy
quote:
Could guys like Red Grange start in the NFL today.
Red grange wouldn't start for an NAIA team today
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:23 pm to Geekboy
If Babe Ruth was given the same advantages as modern athletes, yes.
Red Grange, I seriously doubt it.
Red Grange, I seriously doubt it.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:24 pm to Geekboy
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Raging debate
How raging?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:26 pm to Fun Bunch
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If Babe Ruth was given the same advantages as modern athletes, yes.
Red Grange, I seriously doubt it.
Ruth used bats up to 54 ounces and played in parks that are bigger than today's parks. He'd do fine
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:27 pm to Geekboy
Any baseball player from a past era who "dominated" during there playing years could certainly play today, but probably would be average to low level by today's standards.
Football, because of the size and speed of today's athletes would dominate players from the 60's.
Football, because of the size and speed of today's athletes would dominate players from the 60's.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:30 pm to RaphsDoublePlay
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No
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:31 pm to Geekboy
quote:No. They have inferior genetics compared to today's athletes
Could guys like Red Grange start in the NFL today. Could Babe Ruth start on a baseball team today, etc. You get the gist. I say no
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:33 pm to ForeverLSU02
quote:Racist
No. They have inferior genetics compared to today's athletes
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:36 pm to Geekboy
Translated for their respective eras to today? Not a chance.
But, for sake of debate, there's no reason to say that they wouldn't be a the top of today's game had they been born in a different era. If that makes sense.
But, for sake of debate, there's no reason to say that they wouldn't be a the top of today's game had they been born in a different era. If that makes sense.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:39 pm to Geekboy
Absolutely not. For one thing, an entire race of people were excluded in Ruth's day. For that matter, a couple of races were excluded. Strictly based on the fact that Ruth wasn't even playing against the best athletes of his OWN day, as far as I'm concerned, removes him from the conversation of could he compete against the best athletes 4 score years later.
Think Ruth would have put up big numbers against Mariano Rivera? Swatted home runs off of Fernando Valenzuela? Or would ol' Harold Grange do a bunch of ghostly galloping over Lawrence Taylor? Pffft. Guys like Taylor, Ronnie Lott, or Dirty 30 himself would sent him back to the sidelines in tears.
I've heard it said that Billy Cannon could have played in today's game. That he was as big, fast, and strong as the running backs of today. Having been born in a time that precluded me from seeing him play - and it's the same way with those mentioned in the thread title - I honestly can't give an opinion worth much. I will say though I'd find it hard to believe that ANY of the old legends would have been as good as they were had everyone been allowed to play. Not because I'm a race apologist though. It's because the basic laws of math say so.
Think Ruth would have put up big numbers against Mariano Rivera? Swatted home runs off of Fernando Valenzuela? Or would ol' Harold Grange do a bunch of ghostly galloping over Lawrence Taylor? Pffft. Guys like Taylor, Ronnie Lott, or Dirty 30 himself would sent him back to the sidelines in tears.
I've heard it said that Billy Cannon could have played in today's game. That he was as big, fast, and strong as the running backs of today. Having been born in a time that precluded me from seeing him play - and it's the same way with those mentioned in the thread title - I honestly can't give an opinion worth much. I will say though I'd find it hard to believe that ANY of the old legends would have been as good as they were had everyone been allowed to play. Not because I'm a race apologist though. It's because the basic laws of math say so.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:49 pm to TigerTreyjpg
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Absolutely not. For one thing, an entire race of people were excluded in Ruth's day. For that matter, a couple of races were excluded. Strictly based on the fact that Ruth wasn't even playing against the best athletes of his OWN day, as far as I'm concerned, removes him from the conversation of could he compete against the best athletes 4 score years later.
Name 10 current black MLB players off the top of your head.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:50 pm to Geekboy
Negative bro
Posted on 6/10/15 at 5:53 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I don't watch baseball and could only think of three.
I thought he meant the Puerto Ricans.
Can you imagine the babe on HGH and pther PEDs.
I thought he meant the Puerto Ricans.
Can you imagine the babe on HGH and pther PEDs.
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