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re: Robert Mann criticizes Les Miles for his silence on budget cuts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:27 am to Choctaw
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:27 am to Choctaw
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where do you come to the conclusion that i don't know what exigency is? my complaint is the use of the term bankruptcy...which is fear mongering
So then your problem is with the independent journalists drawing comparisons between bankruptcy and exigency, not with the administration at LSU. You should figure out exactly who it is that you're accusing of fear mongering.
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:34 am to PurpGold 14-0
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Clearly, Alleva is concerned enough about LSU’s budget to speak out. Les Miles is not.
miles is a fricking football coach. This Mann cat is propaganda spreading hack
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:45 am to LSU82BILL
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What is irrelevant is the question "Why is an employee of LSU involved in this to begin with? "
There are rules in how state employees can and can't be involved in political elections. You can claim Les isn't a state employee since his salary is purely paid by TAF now, but his direct association to the university should limit his campaigning for a politician.
I know plenty of people that were limited by this that are state employees.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:53 am to ColeCoushCoush
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You should figure out exactly who it is that you're accusing of fear mongering.
all of them
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:57 am to Geauxgurt
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There are rules in how state employees can and can't be involved in political elections.
State employees? You mean like the governor and other elected officials? Do those state "rules" override the US Constitution?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:10 pm to LSU82BILL
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State employees? You mean like the governor and other elected officials? Do those state "rules" override the US Constitution?
Yes, and it has nothing to do with their constitutional rights. They aren't prevented from voting. By being employed by the government, they have agreed to limit their rights to campaign in state elections because of multiple reasons including undue pressure on them by superiors or to protect against them pushing agendas at work.
Here is a link LSU puts forth for employees to understand these limits. Enjoy.
LINK
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:16 pm to Geauxgurt
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they have agreed to limit their rights to campaign in state elections
so now Miles is campaigning for him
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:29 pm to PurpGold 14-0
Except for the fact that this thread is about Miles I thought I was in "political Talk".
The only part of the constitution that a political liberal agrees with is the one not in the constitution. That one is the one that says its against the law to agree with or be on the same side as a conservative. We all know how the liberal likes to spend beyond his means. So the hell with fiscal responsibility we want those liberal teachers to continue their propaganda. The liberal advocate must be in fear of his big stage being taken away.
The only part of the constitution that a political liberal agrees with is the one not in the constitution. That one is the one that says its against the law to agree with or be on the same side as a conservative. We all know how the liberal likes to spend beyond his means. So the hell with fiscal responsibility we want those liberal teachers to continue their propaganda. The liberal advocate must be in fear of his big stage being taken away.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:30 pm to LSU82BILL
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State employees? You mean like the governor and other elected officials? Do those state "rules" override the US Constitution?
If an employee is covered by Civil Service legislation there are limits to his political activities.
But you knew that didn't you?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:30 pm to catnip
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The only part of the constitution that a political liberal agrees with is the one not in the constitution. That one is the one that says its against the law to agree with or be on the same side as a conservative. We all know how the liberal likes to spend beyond his means. So the hell with fiscal responsibility we want those liberal teachers to continue their propaganda. The liberal advocate must be in fear of his big stage being taken away.
Holy frick, shut up.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:39 pm to Geauxgurt
As a former "high ranking public official", my experience is that the only person who does the talking for a public institution about budget matters in general or the Division of Administration in particular is the highest ranking official of that institution or anyone he/she designates.
Mann = out of line
Miles = in line
Mann = out of line
Miles = in line
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:42 pm to PurpGold 14-0
It's not the responsibility of Miles to address the university budget. Robert Mann apparently has an axe to grind with Miles and the football program. I want to hear Miles speak on the budget about as much as I want to hear this guy speak about football.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:43 pm to catnip
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The only part of the constitution that a political liberal agrees with is the one not in the constitution. That one is the one that says its against the law to agree with or be on the same side as a conservative. We all know how the liberal likes to spend beyond his means. So the hell with fiscal responsibility we want those liberal teachers to continue their propaganda. The liberal advocate must be in fear of his big stage being taken away.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:45 pm to LSU82BILL
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State employees? You mean like the governor and other elected officials? Do those state "rules" override the US Constitution?
They aren't in competition
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LSU employees are not permitted to represent the University or its positions to members of the Governor’s Office or Legislature without the Chancellor’s approval.
So basically like most employers
And you see this all the time in schools.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:55 pm to Geauxgurt
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So you are saying that something that could be detrimental to his football team should just be completely ignored and he shouldn't be thinking about it at all?
Put me down as someone who absolutely, 100%, without a doubt does not want Les Miles getting in the middle of this political standoff.
Personally, I think you'd have to be an idiot to suggest otherwise.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/30/15 at 1:11 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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Some state universities need to go under.
Grambling: 30.9% Graduation rate
SUNO: 17.5%
UNO: 34.5%
Southern U and A&M: 27.6%
LSU Shreveport: 26.9%
Northwestern: 36%
Why should all of these under-performing schools continue to be bailed out by Louisiana taxpayers? They are part of the problem. Propping up failing universities is not the solution.
again herein lies the true problem, we have way too many public universities for a state our size, but the rest must suffer to carry their sorry asses. SUNO maintains their job isn't to have students graduate and to close them down is totally racist.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 2:09 pm to saint amant steve
Anything Manship = liberal hackjob of the highest degree. frick any and all Manships
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:28 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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Tenured professors who teach two classes, pull six figure salaries, and do not bring in research dollars are more damaging to LSU's budget situation than a head coach's silence. Particularly when that head coach's team is responsible for the vast majority of the $7 million that is contributed to LSU's academic side. Many of his collegues wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for Les Miles and his "not much on offense" program.
You're a good example of why the public education system in LA is one of the worst in the US. You're ignorant, yet think you aren't. First, learn how to spell colleagues. Second, salaries of public employees including professors are public record. Check your facts, and see what % of LSU profs earn six figures. Third, study organizational psychology in your spare time so you have a clue how quality organizations function. Finally, GFY.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:09 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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Robert Mann
Asking for reaction--using worried, alarmed, danger--instead of asking for Miles' thoughts which requires thinking and discussion...what a hack.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:07 pm to AlLSU8
hi Bob, or Bob's TA. Sorry I called out the fact that you or your boss teach two classes and pull in a six figure salary while bringing in zero research dollars. I'm sorry that you have to resort to criticizing a coach who brings more notoriety and money to a university than you and your history with Kathleen Blanco ever could. Please tell me how you're improving the well-being of LSU employees Mr. Organizational Psychology. I look forward to it.
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