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Good ways to end "Hack-a-Shaq"...

Posted on 4/25/15 at 8:56 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27341 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 8:56 am
Why couldn't the coach have the option to "decline" free throws for intentional off-ball fouls, and can opt to take the ball out.

This changes nothing in regards to stopping the clock at the end of games by fouling, because those are ON-BALL fouls, and the person who was fouled with the ball would have to shoot free throws like always.

Seems like a pretty simple way to get rid of intentionally fouling bad free throw shooters.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 8:58 am to
Fukk that. Make your GD free throws. Simple. Changing the landscape of the game because DeAndre Jordan can't make a FT is just retarded.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:00 am
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40900 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:05 am to
The best and only way to fix it would be to make your damn free throws. I don't understand why they want to "fix" this strategy. If they would just practice free throws, this would not be a problem. I mean shite, it's their only job to play basketball and practice. Why not spend some time on it, instead of hitting the club, beating women, smoking the chronic, etc.....
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:10 am to
Make your damn free throws or don't play a player who can't.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13613 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:32 am to
I'm torn on this issue. A big part of me says "make your free throws and this isn't a problem." But when the hack a shaq strategy is used, it brings the game to a screeching halt and really hurts the viewing product.

I propose an off ball foul, while in the penalty should result in the offensive team getting a free throw and the ball back, and the offensive team is allowed to pick who shoots the throw. It's basically a 1 point penalty and a side out.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 9:34 am
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 9:47 am to
Three-to-make-two for all off-the-ball fouls.
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:00 am to
Gotta make your FT
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12316 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:29 am to
Not reading 8 pages, so this might have been mentioned already...

I've always thought there should be a foul limit under 2 or 3 minutes. If you commit more than 5 fouls or whatever, then they turn into 2 shots and the ball.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40963 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:32 am to
Clicked on this thread hoping to see realistic ideas of how they could end this.

Instead get 8 pages of arguing about whether or not DeAndre Jordan could be an 80% FT shooter if he just practiced a little more.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:32 am to
There is no need to change the rule, fouling and free throws are a HUGE part of the game. As a Rockets fan you should know that.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71740 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:32 am to
Intentional fouls are supposed to be a technical.

In reality, teams just don't make it obvious that they meant to foul. They're just more aggressive trying to steal the ball because the cost of a defensive foul is a lot lower when you're behind late in the game. If a foul happens, so be it--it stops the clock and gives you the ball back, and if you're lucky you get the steal and don't give up the points.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8790 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 10:49 am to
2 shots and the ball for intentionally fouling off the ball
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 10:50 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85465 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Why couldn't the coach have the option to "decline" free throws for intentional off-ball fouls, and can opt to take the ball out.


I don't understand why anyone would have an issue with this change. It is no different than football coaches declining penalties.

Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to adding the option to decline free throws at any time in the game, including on-ball fouls at the end of the game. It would do a wonder for the game IMO. It is frustrating that 45 minutes of the game are played in an epic fashion, and the other 3 minutes feature some of the worst entertainment I've ever seen.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119840 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:34 pm to
They do it because Shaq and others like him are horrible free throw shooters, even though they play basketball for a living.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:59 pm to
More rules isn't the answer.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:34 pm to
Players who can make their FTs don't get fouled as much. It is that simple.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Seems like a pretty simple way to get rid of intentionally fouling bad free throw shooters.




I hate the hack a shaq as much as anyone but are we really going to change the rules of the game to players who can't hit a fundamental shot?


Its a big of threat to the integrity of the game as hack a shaq, if not more.

quote:

Its not changing the landscape of the game... the game was never meant to be like this. It's a loophole.


Its not a loophole if players hit the free throws. The game was supposed to make it easier when a player is fouled and goes to the line, hence the free shot from relatively short distance.
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83499 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:08 pm to
Let's protect the players who can't make the simplest shot in basketball. Awesome


If the NBA wants to do something to make the game more entertaining, start giving out game suspensions for flagrant flopping
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:30 pm to
I'm not reading this entire thread but what's the consensus on calling obvious off the ball fouls intentional fouls. 1 Ft plus the ball.
Is that not what hack a shaq is essentially...an intentional foul?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 2:33 pm to
To me, the MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR flaw in basketball is that "fouling" can be used as a POSITIVE strategy.

It is akin to letting teams commit penalties in football in order to stop the clock but where the negative of the penalty is only a maybe.

It's always been of the stupidest aspects of basketball.

Frnakly, I love to watch basketball except for the last 5 minutes. Then, it degrades into being one of the dumbest team sports ever invented.

A foul is by definition "breaking the rules". Breaking the rules, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, should afford a team an advantage.
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