re: Whiplash is the best movie of the year...

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Simmons was great, though, and should have won Best Actor.

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Best actor is only for the lead. Teller was the lead not SImmons

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Also Interstellar was the best film of the year.

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Wow.

Whiplash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interstellar

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Interstellar was the best film of the year.

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Doing what Fletcher did would have not only sabotaged the kid, but every other musician on that stage, himself included. It was not a believable action for him to take, IMO. Simmons was great, though, and should have won Best Actor.

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Meh. Fletcher was already well-established and respected. I think the other musicians were pretty well-regarded as it was, but regardless, Fletcher is pretty egotistical and self-centered (not to care too much about the other's reputations).

I think Fletcher had it planned out well. If Andrew had continued to look that poorly throughout the rest of the set, Fletcher would have pointed out that the rest of the band played well, and Andrew was the outlier; Andrew is that much more isolated. He would have been the single flaw--and a astoundingly glaring flaw at that--in an otherwise flawless performance. Fletcher and the rest of the band would maintain their reputation, and Andrew would be remembered as the pariah that ruined perfection.

Andrew wouldn't have looked like a small fish in a big pond, he would have looked like a fish that didn't belong in any jazz pond.

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had his plan worked, it would have been a disaster and embarrassment for them all on the biggest stage, and he would have been blackballed by the entire music community

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Why though? Fletcher wasn't there to prove himself; he was invited because he was already well-respected and well-known in the Jazz community. I think everybody would have put the blame on the one person that screwed up.

I mean if Nick Saban or Urban Meyer was asked to coach a team for one game, and one player just absolutely bombed (e.g., forgetting plays, looks completely lost), but everybody else played well; however, that player cost them the game. Do you think they would blackball them from coaching, or put the blame on that one player?

It's called film man. Suspend belief for a few hours

Haha, I know. I loved the film.

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best movie of the year

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Nightcrawler.

Here ya go,

If Fletcher thought that the kid would really quit and walk off the stage for good, why was a backup drummer not there. (or was there?)

Watched this finally last night. Absolutely loved it. A lot of people have talked about the final scene and was he sabotaging him yada yada.

To me, the entire movie was his cymbal throw. Especially when they are talking in the jazz club. He tells Andrew that he was trying to make the next Charlie Parker, but that the truth was, he never had one. That's the worst thing Andrew could've heard, because that's what he wanted to be.

So he invites him to play with his band, knowing Andrew got him fired, planning out the finale of his cymbal throw. He fricks him over with Upswingin', you know the rest.

The point to Fletcher was that he tried. If he gets discouraged and leaves, like others have said, Neiman looks like a fool and will probably never play again. But if it works, he'll play the best f**king drum solo the world has ever heard.