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re: Was Interstellar one of the most hyped movies ever that
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:54 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:54 pm to nicholastiger
It was a fantastic movie that I really enjoyed and it was a total mindfrick from the moment they entered the warp to the very end and it's not really insane at all to compare it to 2001.
Realistically, the only plot hole was how the black guy did not go insane spending at least 10 years by himself on the ship when the crew was down on the water planet. 23 total years had passed by the time the crew returned to the ship.
Realistically, the only plot hole was how the black guy did not go insane spending at least 10 years by himself on the ship when the crew was down on the water planet. 23 total years had passed by the time the crew returned to the ship.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:58 pm to Sentrius
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Realistically, the only plot hole was how the black guy did not go insane spending at least 10 years by himself on the ship when the crew was down on the water planet. 23 total years had passed by the time the crew returned to the ship.
Yeah, had to say had to raise an eyebrow when Matt Damon says "Pray you don't learn the feeling of absolute isolation." The guy sitting across from him may have had it even worse, and should have said he sat aboard a space station alone for 23 years.
And Matt Damon I feel was miscast as Dr. Mann. I didn't buy that Matt Damon could convince 11 other people to go on a suicide mission with him. The person playing Mann should have either been Bryan Cranston or Terry O'Quinn. I could buy it from those two.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:18 pm to nicholastiger
The fact that this thread exists proves that Interstellar is ahead of its time. This film got just about everything right and the acting, dialouge, scenery, and (perhaps most of all) score were brilliant.
It is understandably a complicated movie to follow and people who don't have an interest in astrophysics will probably be disappointed (like my girlfriend who said she didn't like it as we were leaving the theatre while I was blown away.) However, that doesn't mean it was overhyped just because it didn't receive an Oscar nomination for every category. Complicated movies rarely receive awards.
I love that it's a movie that makes you think while carrying all the traits of what you'd expect out of a modern Hollywood blockbuster.
It is understandably a complicated movie to follow and people who don't have an interest in astrophysics will probably be disappointed (like my girlfriend who said she didn't like it as we were leaving the theatre while I was blown away.) However, that doesn't mean it was overhyped just because it didn't receive an Oscar nomination for every category. Complicated movies rarely receive awards.
I love that it's a movie that makes you think while carrying all the traits of what you'd expect out of a modern Hollywood blockbuster.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:21 pm to OMLandshark
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And Matt Damon I feel was miscast as Dr. Mann. I didn't buy that Matt Damon could convince 11 other people to go on a suicide mission with him. The person playing Mann should have either been Bryan Cranston or Terry O'Quinn. I could buy it from those two.
Agreed. It needed to be an older character with more gravitas.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:28 pm to Sentrius
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Realistically, the only plot hole was how the black guy did not go insane spending at least 10 years by himself on the ship when the crew was down on the water planet. 23 total years had passed by the time the crew returned to the ship.
Didn't Romily have the capability to use the hibernation device on board Endurance? I know he says he waited years but I can't remember if he said he went to sleep for a while. Might be mixing that up with Matt Damon.
I think he knew the time differential that was on the planet and he had to keep reminding himself that every 7 years was only an hour down there. That's why he was such a good character. He knew that something might have gone wrong and their return would be delayed. He already was prepared on going at least 7 years without the crew when they left.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:30 pm to Peazey
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I thought it was really good, and that seemed to be the general consensus that I heard.
OP
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I really don't know what you are talking about.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:31 pm to Bluefin
Yeah he hibernated a few times.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:39 pm to OMLandshark
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And Matt Damon I feel was miscast as Dr. Mann.
I see where you are going, but IMO I feel like he nailed it with casting Damon because I'm looking at it from the perspective from the back-end of the mission, if that makes sense. I wasn't expecting Damon to emerge from that sleep chamber, and immediately I felt myself liking Dr. Mann even more BECAUSE he was Matt Damon (not to mention all of the other praises of Dr. Mann throughout the film), who is so recognizable and admirable in most of the roles he plays. And then he unexpectedly pushes Cooper off the cliff and everything came crashing down on me leading to the climax of the film. It was truly a wave of emotion when I saw that entire sequence of events unfold.
I feel like we are crossing over into topics that need to be had in the original Interstellar discussion thread... maybe that should be resurrected
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:43 pm to nicholastiger
I liked it a lot. It was perhaps a bit overhyped though
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:42 pm to meeple
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I see where you are going, but IMO I feel like he nailed it with casting Damon because I'm looking at it from the perspective from the back-end of the mission, if that makes sense. I wasn't expecting Damon to emerge from that sleep chamber, and immediately I felt myself liking Dr. Mann even more BECAUSE he was Matt Damon (not to mention all of the other praises of Dr. Mann throughout the film), who is so recognizable and admirable in most of the roles he plays. And then he unexpectedly pushes Cooper off the cliff and everything came crashing down on me leading to the climax of the film. It was truly a wave of emotion when I saw that entire sequence of events unfold.
Yeah, but I think you could get the same reaction out of the guy who played John Locke from LOST. Think is Damon was never frightening as a concept, just seemed like a pussy. Think they should have made him a bit more disturbing in him being an idealist that snaps at the end and does anything to pursue those ideals, even killing others, and for he himself to be the hero. Think it would have been best to see Mann's character to go from this from when first being introduced to him ( LOST Clip) to this ( Big LOST Spoilers) within 15 minutes. Bryan Cranston could have done the same.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:44 pm to nicholastiger
I loved it. But I think the cool thing now is to not like it. And bitch about CGI.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Think is Damon was never frightening as a concept, just seemed like a pussy.
I think he was supposed to be viewed as a pussy. He was a pussy who was afraid of dying alone, so he kept sending thumbs up signals so that someone would come to his rescue. He had years to plan an escape from his planet, knowing full well it held no future. He knew someone would come with better technology, and he could pull the whole "I thought I was gonna die alone" bullshite to get them to listen to him.
He just wasn't smart enough to think of his next move once he got off his planet. He was just too preoccupied with getting away from Cooper, who he was too much of a pussy to watch die like he had hoped.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:12 pm to Bluefin
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I think he was supposed to be viewed as a pussy. He was a pussy who was afraid of dying alone, so he kept sending thumbs up signals so that someone would come to his rescue. He had years to plan an escape from his planet, knowing full well it held no future. He knew someone would come with better technology, and he could pull the whole "I thought I was gonna die alone" bullshite to get them to listen to him.
He just wasn't smart enough to think of his next move once he got off his planet. He was just too preoccupied with getting away from Cooper, who he was too much of a pussy to watch die like he had hoped.
You say that, and yes I think he was supposed to be cowardly, but I think he's supposed to be terrifyingly so due to the foreshadowing earlier in the film when they're talking about finding Dr. Mann and knowing that they won't find evil when they get out to the system where he is. Cowardice was I think only supposed to be one part of him, but I think they wanted to get some of the savagery of man in the themes too, and Matt Damon didn't really make me believe that. I think Cranston and O'Quinn could have been given those same lines and looked cowardly and terrifying at the same time.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 11:59 pm to nicholastiger
Do yourself a favor and google Interstellar South Korea or China.
Just because stateside morons thought it was too long and complex didn't make it "nothing". I'm not talking about not liking the movie you saw. I'm talking about the sheer amount of people disinterested in such a cool idea because of it's intimidation who you literally couldn't pay to sit through it.
Just because stateside morons thought it was too long and complex didn't make it "nothing". I'm not talking about not liking the movie you saw. I'm talking about the sheer amount of people disinterested in such a cool idea because of it's intimidation who you literally couldn't pay to sit through it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 1:05 am to yankeeundercover
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Christopher Nolan is sloppy when it comes to the details
Didn't Nolan make 'Inception'? Yeah, details aren't his strong suit..
I was thinking the same thing...hmmm Nolan hired Kip Thorne, a world renowned physicist to do all the calculations for the effect of the wormhole, the blackhole and the ships in space.
no not detail oriented at all
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:10 am to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
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meeple
Both of you have great points. I can't decide who I agree with.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 6:37 am to Cruiserhog
And read the Science of Interstellar by Thorne.
In the dialogue he goes over several points that he states Nolan was fully aware of but gave an inaccurate view of for the mental ability of the "average" movie goer.
In the dialogue he goes over several points that he states Nolan was fully aware of but gave an inaccurate view of for the mental ability of the "average" movie goer.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:09 am to Volvagia
The whole space/time theory never made any sense to me. Our biological clocks would still tick at the same rate of time.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:12 am to EventHorizon
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Watched it in IMAX twice and loved it. Sure, there's some bad dialogue and some plot holes I could agree with, but sitting there watching it all unfold was quite the experience. Totally got lost in the movie. The docking scene.
i watched it opening night in a regular theater (because i was traveling and didn't like the book i brought to read in the hotel.) didn't care for the ending and it was too much to take in during 3 hours. i left not sure if i loved it or hated it, but appreciated the effort.
when i got back in town, friends wanted to go see it in IMAX. so i went, enjoyed the visuals and score and just soaked it in.
came away still feeling the same about stupid plot holes in the last 20 minutes of it, but still a spectacular film all in all. Probably the best thing i've seen in the last 5 or so years.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:13 am to OMLandshark
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I really feel like a lot of people are getting caught up in some of the nuances in the plot rather than what the movie was trying to say. For instance, 2001 seems to break every convention of filmmaking to where there seems to be a really aimless plot and no main characters really. 2001 is a film completely carried by the themes, shots, music, and tone. Interstellar does have a benefit in having 2 good characters in Cooper and Murph, but I still don't think the average movie goer and critic realizes what hit them with this movie. For instance, the main complaint I've found is the final act when Cooper's love for his daughter is what resolves it. I find that not only satisfying, but redeeming to us as a species, especially since it is the future of what humanity could potentially becomes that saves us in the end.
People get caught up in the nuances because Nolan invites the viewer into a puzzle (Kubrick doesn't make things for viewers to "solve," like Nolan, he makes things for people to "see" if that makes sense). secondly, this end is precisely why people are looking for more...
I mean that's it, 3 hours for "Love," as the answer? You know how many movies have made that the climax of the film? Eleventy billion. If you're going to do that, make it more powerful, more thoughtful.
You know a movie that's 2 hours shorter is about love bringing us out of the depths, and does it without a single word spoken, and is far more powerful on the end screen? City Lights.
Now this isn't a "older is better," thing, just that if you're going to make a scientific mystery, make it worth it. If you're going to make a story about Love, do it right.
That and I still think the idea of a inter-dimensional third party involvement really, really killed any impact the film had. Again, still fun to watch, the science of it is great, but a pretty bland ending.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 9:14 am
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