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Better Confederate General: Jackson or Longstreet?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:02 pm
I am on a bit of a Civil War tangent and am reading some of my old books and stuff (reading Soldiers:Blue and Grey which I can't recommend enough FWIW) and I've been surprised about a lot more criticism of Jackson that I remember. I googled it and it surprising came back with more liking Longstreet as a better general.
In my last Civil War phase, I remember reading unanimous praise of Jackson and his death was the end all be all.
But recently, I've been reading about some of the old battles and they've been pretty critical of him, especially in the 7 Pines Battle and the first Bull Run.
Meanwhile, reading about Longstreet, it seems that he had a pretty good idea of what was happening and seemed to suffer a lot of being a victim of circumstance.
Obviously Longstreet lived throughout the war to become a bitter, defensive old man and Jackson died lionized. But in reality, who was a better overall general.
I don't know enough to be able to say.
In my last Civil War phase, I remember reading unanimous praise of Jackson and his death was the end all be all.
But recently, I've been reading about some of the old battles and they've been pretty critical of him, especially in the 7 Pines Battle and the first Bull Run.
Meanwhile, reading about Longstreet, it seems that he had a pretty good idea of what was happening and seemed to suffer a lot of being a victim of circumstance.
Obviously Longstreet lived throughout the war to become a bitter, defensive old man and Jackson died lionized. But in reality, who was a better overall general.
I don't know enough to be able to say.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:06 pm to athenslife101
Lee is a top 5 US general ever.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:06 pm to athenslife101
Joshua Chamberlain over all Southern Gens.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:08 pm to athenslife101
Jackson also got in a bind at Antietam. Its been a while since i read up on any of that though.
Did you know his arm has its own grave site?
Did you know his arm has its own grave site?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:08 pm to mattz1122
In mustaches, definitely.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:14 pm to athenslife101
The real answer is that it depends on the situation.
Jackson was tough as nails, could drive his men hard and push offensively but this put him out there so to speak.
Longstreet was more consistent and was a more defensive minded general.
Where Jackson could almost be left to his own devices and produce success, Longstreet was more one to carry out orders to a T.
They are just different men that succeeded at different strategies.
Jackson was tough as nails, could drive his men hard and push offensively but this put him out there so to speak.
Longstreet was more consistent and was a more defensive minded general.
Where Jackson could almost be left to his own devices and produce success, Longstreet was more one to carry out orders to a T.
They are just different men that succeeded at different strategies.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:21 pm to KosmoCramer
Yeah, that's one thing that stood out. Jackson kept on showing up late to engagements that kept the confederacy from delivering a destructive blow to the army of the potamic.
Also, Longstreet forsaw a number of things and protested them before they happened that saw the confederacy defeated.
Also, Longstreet forsaw a number of things and protested them before they happened that saw the confederacy defeated.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:51 pm to Cosmo
Lee was not a U.S. general in the war.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:59 pm to athenslife101
Jackson did indeed mishandle some battles in his career. I can't recall whether Longstreet did also.
Longstreet may have the edge for corps or army command. I really wonder whether Jackson could have commanded an army.
Jackson tended to lead from the front because he emphasized quick and decisive action. Longstreet followed tradition and commanded from the rear.
So, maybe Jackson was a better brigade or division commander whereas Longstreet would have the edge for corps level and higher command.
Longstreet may have the edge for corps or army command. I really wonder whether Jackson could have commanded an army.
Jackson tended to lead from the front because he emphasized quick and decisive action. Longstreet followed tradition and commanded from the rear.
So, maybe Jackson was a better brigade or division commander whereas Longstreet would have the edge for corps level and higher command.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:01 pm to athenslife101
If Jackson hadn't been such a fool and careless, the South almost certainly would have won. He made Lee look great. Lee's entire legacy was made by Jackson. The North couldn't match Jackson's tactical moves at all. Jackson would have destroyed Washington DC before the North could have turned things around. Jackson's death was by far the most pivotal event of the Civil War, yet very few know anything about it. Jackson is by far the greatest tactical leader in US history. On the other hand, he didn't have much common sense in vital areas, which ultimately led to his death.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:04 pm to arcalades
Kind of like Belicheck and Parcells?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:05 pm to mattz1122
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Joshua Chamberlain over all Southern Gens.
but he was one of the bad guys
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:06 pm to athenslife101
On the eve of Christmas, we have a thread about a bunch of terrorist that tried to destroy our great Union ?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:07 pm to StrongSafety
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StrongSafety
Like a moth to a flame
Posted on 12/24/14 at 11:17 pm to stout
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Like a moth to a flame
Or a welfare rat to an EB card.
LC
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