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re: Drug raid in rural Georgia ends in a homeowner dead, no drugs found...
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:00 pm to LSU0358
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:00 pm to LSU0358
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Yep. Makes a lot more sense to do a car stop. The number of people in the car is obvious and the officers have everyone in one spot.
Then you may have a dangerous car chase that can hurt many other innocent people. It's a catch 22 here.
I don't like no knock warrants either. They are very dangerous for the officers and for the occupants. I think they should be reserved for very dangerous criminals that are a threat to the public.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:00 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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The search warrant to raid Hooks’ home came about after a local meth addict named Rodney Garrett came onto the property two nights earlier and stole one of Hooks’ vehicles. Garrett claimed that before he stole the vehicle, he broke into another vehicle on the property and stole a plastic bag. Garrett claimed he thought the bag contained money, but when he later examined it and discovered it contained 20 grams of meth and a digital scale, he “became scared for his safety” and turned himself in to the sheriff’s office.
(Hooks’ family, however, said that Garrett had been identified as the burglar and a warrant issued for his arrest the day after the burglary. He was arrested the following day; the raid happened that same night.)
I really wonder why the populace is losing faith in law enforcement. Seems like a conclusion a bunch of college dropouts would come up with.
oh wait.
ETA: Oh i got a bag of money, Oh wait it is actually powder and a scale..... easy mistake.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:01 pm to rb
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The initial report stated the car thief turned himself in to authorities after discovering large amounts of drugs in the wifes stolen auto. That was false. The mother of the car thief called authorities when she realized what her son had done. He was then arrested, and only then did he make the claim of the drugs coming from Davids.
wow
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:03 pm to Wtodd
Fixing this kind of policing needs to be a headline issue in the 2016 election. Like top 3.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:04 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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Then you may have a dangerous car chase that can hurt many other innocent people. It's a catch 22 here.
It would of course have to be done with some planning (in the case of the subject police department that could be asking too much). For instance, it could even be done with the car stopped and the suspect out of the car.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:08 pm to Andre
that is terrible---so sad for that family.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:09 pm to LSU0358
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It would of course have to be done with some planning (in the case of the subject police department that could be asking too much). For instance, it could even be done with the car stopped and the suspect out of the car.
It could, but you have to remember most SO's don't have the resources or the training to do this. Most Police departments have a lot more resources and man power to do things like that and they tend to have better officers.
This case looks awful. It looks like you have poorly trained officers executing a warrant on iffy information that led to the death of a man.
After reading her story I would have reacted the same exact way the homeowner did and I believe most Southern men would to.
We may also have information that completely changes this story, but right now it looks like a awful miscarriage of justice.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:12 pm to LSU0358
You would be disgusted if you knew how that system works. I will use Atlanta as an example. Metro UASI is the liaison between Homeland Security and the City of Atlanta. They have employees who go to all Atlanta area LE precincts and archive their "wish" list. They submit to DHS this list for approval. Then, once approved, that acquire and deliver the goods to the police departments. It is basically, as you would expect, a racket wherein a small group of people benefit from typical political cronyism. The salaries of these 6-8 people who manage this company are all in the six figure range. The highest two have earned (or pocketed) 191,000 and 252,000 year to date. Wish I could say more but I have a personal interest in watching what I write. Never know who is reading especially with certain organizations mentioned above.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:12 pm to Pendulum
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I really wonder why the populace is losing faith in law enforcement. Seems like a conclusion a bunch of college dropouts would come up with.
We have 700K officers in this country. A high number of them are college educated and are very good at this job of policing and then you have the departments that are vastly inferior and they have the same rights and powers. They also hire rejects from the better cities (ie Cleveland PD) because they need warm bodies to work.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:15 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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This case looks awful. It looks like you have poorly trained officers executing a warrant on iffy information that led to the death of a man.
Having two officers that are properly trained would be more valuable than having the 8 jackasses in the department that executed this raid.
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SO's don't have the resources or the training to do this.
I agree that many have a funding issue, but most seem to find the money for lots of toys/military equipment. A department in my area has a .50 caliber machine gun.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:16 pm to yankeeundercover
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See if white people riot... just wait and see.
Maybe they should.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:21 pm to LSU0358
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Having two officers that are properly trained would be more valuable than having the 8 jackasses in the department that executed this raid.
I 100% agree with this.
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I agree that many have a funding issue, but most seem to find the money for lots of toys/military equipment. A department in my area has a .50 caliber machine gun.
Each place is totally different. We have a lot of old military equipment also. It is used for rescue missions during hurricanes mostly and parades. No tanks or anything like that. Just big 4 X 4s that are very usefull in hurricanes.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:35 pm to LSU0358
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I agree that many have a funding issue,
The funding issues stem from these departments own unrealistic expectations. Departments like Laurens Co Ga don't need swat teams. They don't need armored personnel carriers.They don't need AR-15's. They don't need a speeder taskforce. They just need to respond when you call them.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:39 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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This case looks awful. It looks like you have poorly trained officers executing a warrant on iffy information that led to the death of a man.
Probably a good idea not to engage in risky behavior if the training isn't sufficient.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:39 pm to rb
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They don't need AR-15's
That is the ONLY thing I disagree with you on as far as equipment goes. Rifles are a essential tool in a enviroment where you have criminals shooting at you with high powered rifles, school shootings and mass killings in public.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably a good idea not to engage in risky behavior if the training isn't sufficient.
No doubt. Cases like this make all of us look inept.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:42 pm to Pettifogger
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the Laurens County SWAT team
I found the problem
I've said this before. There are many professional SWAT teams across the country that train and drill on tactics, response, counter-terror, etc. They are a necessary and critical part of law enforcement.
That being said, the FBI HRT =/= the Laurens County SWAT Team. Just because you put on black nomex suits with body armor and tactical weapons and go to the shooting range once a month because your department got a grant to spend on gear does not make you a professional counterterror organization. Just because you go to a special class once a week and talk about SWAT does not make you a professional SWAT officer.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:42 pm to Andre
fricking no-knock warrants...
This is so screwed up.
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"One was to the side of the head, the other, was in his back, the back of his left shoulder, based on the evidence we see, we believe that David Hooks was face down on the ground when he received those last two shots," says Shook
This is so screwed up.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:43 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
I've got a Remington 700 30-06 semi auto I paid $475 new for ,out of the box ,and I'll guarantee you I could kill just as many bad guys with it than all 8 of that Laurens Co swat team combined if needed. You don't have to drive a Cadillac if a Ford will get you to work.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:51 pm
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