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re: Michigan's "Hot Board" of Coaching candidates (including Miles)
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Tuscaloosa
Here is the rest of the list... wouldn't let me add it to the OP due to length:
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Names you will hear/have heard
Butch Jones, head coach Tennessee Volunteers
Why it makes sense: Jones is a Midwest native and has a lot of ties to the area, having coached at Central Michigan, then Cincinnati before moving onto Tennessee. He has shown the ability to recruit with the best of them, putting together a pair of top recruiting classes in Knoxville and building more excitement within their program than they've seen in years. Has shown marked improvement on the field in his second season at the helm as well.
Why it doesn't make sense: "Marked improvement" means a bowl game this year for Tennessee. Jones has truly yet to prove that he can win on the big stage despite solid success at Cincinnati. If he was to leave Knoxville after only two seasons, what's to say he wouldn't jump on another job if someone came calling with a better situation after a short time in Ann Arbor? He runs more of a spread-based offense as well, which doesn't fit Michigan's current roster.
Dan Mullen, head coach Mississippi State Bulldogs
Why it makes sense: It's not easy to win in Starkville, and this season Mullen has the Bulldogs primed to make the CFB Playoff series this winter and compete for the first national championship in school history. He's shown a history of developing quarterbacks under Urban Meyer at both Utah and Florida and is likely to be one of the hottest names in coaching circles this off-season.
Why it doesn't make sense: Mullen's recruiting style, including a recent incident where they attempted to "lower" a player's scholarship offer from a basic one to a "greyshirt" are the types of things Michigan looks to avoid. It's not the first time it's been done by his staff, either. Until this season, Mullen's success was very limited, and he has a very, very senior-laden team this year. It may be a situation where his stock will never be higher.
Greg Schiano, former Rutgers head coach
Why it makes sense: Schiano is a former national college coach of the year that took a moribund Rutgers program and made them respectable in his time there. He's familiar with the Michigan job and was previously considered before when the job was opened in 2011. He's taken a year off from coaching and may be reinvigorated for the college game. Schiano also has a lot of roots in Pennsylvania and New Jersey from his time at Penn State and Rutgers and could recruit really well in two pivotal areas for the Wolverines.
Why it doesn't make sense: His complete failure in the NFL at Tampa Bay was highlighted by multiple mishaps, including major unhappiness on the part of a lot of his players. His tenure at Rutgers was sprinkled with similar incidents and a "my way or the highway" type attitude that turned players and scouts off. His current coaching record is barely above .500 and he's not a safe bet by any means.
Bret Bielema, current Arkansas Razorbacks head coach
Why it makes sense: Bielema was a big winner at Wisconsin, leading them to three Rose Bowls in a row before heading to Arkansas. He's familiar with the Big Ten, and his coaching style fits the current roster of the Wolverines. He doesn't like Ohio State at all either, which is probably a plus of sorts.
Why it doesn't make sense: He's only been 9-15 at Arkansas since taking the job. Despite his past success in the Big Ten, many see him as a bad fit culture-wise at Michigan.
Al Golden, current Miami Hurricanes coach
Why it makes sense: Golden is a Penn State alum who is another potential candidate that's very familiar with Big Ten football and how it works. At only 45, he's entering his coaching prime and is someone who would likely stick around for the long run if hired and found success. He's done an admirable job at Miami considering the sanctions that have plagued the program since his arrival and deserves credit for putting the program on the right path. Golden has proven to be a loyal coach, sticking with Temple early in his career despite being considered for jobs at UCLA, Tennessee and Cincinnati.
Why it doesn't make sense: Those same sanctions at Miami have clouded what he's truly potential of as a major college head coach. Golden doesn't seem like a fit in Ann Arbor either. He's a likely long-shot.
Gary Patterson, head coach TCU Horned Frogs
Why it makes sense: Patterson has sustained success at TCU, a program that constantly has to recruit against Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma and many others. He has his program in position to compete for a national championship in 2014 and will lead the Horned Frogs to their 9th season of ten wins or more this year. He's won the Rose Bowl as well and has shown the ability to build both a strong defense and elite offense. He may view the Michigan job as a chance to test his skills on the big stage.
Why it doesn't make sense: Patterson is a Kansas native who has no ties to not only Michigan, but the Big Ten in general. Recruits in Michigan's most important spots (Ohio, New Jersey, Virginia) may not be very familiar with Patterson. A Patterson hire would likely mean the Wolverines would have to transition back to the spread offense and their roster doesn't fit that right now. Much like Stoops and Miles, he's built something good at TCU and may prefer to stay there and continue to compete where he's comfortable.
Teryl Austin, defensive coordinator Detroit Lions
Why it makes sense: Austin is arguably the hottest assistant coach in football because he turned the Detroit Lions defense into the best in the league in his first season. He has coached at Michigan before, and has a lot of experience in the college game. He's a Pennsylvania native and has the type of personality that could succeed on the recruiting trail. The Michigan defense would thrive under his tutelage.
Why it doesn't make sense: Austin coached one year in college (2010), but has been all NFL since 2003 besides that season. We say he could succeed on the recruiting trail, but there's no real tangible evidence that it's the case. He's also never been the head coach at any level, and that's going to be his biggest knock before any program invests their future in him.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Clockwatcher68
Always has that look like he's taking one up the arse.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Clockwatcher68
sorry, they don't have a shot at getting any one of those coaches,
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Give me one reason besides it being his alma mater that would make Les want to leave LSU for Michigan?
get away from the SECW
get away from Saban
His wife is from Michigan
Since his mother and sister passed, Miles has no family here any more
other than tOSU and MSU the B1G is terrible
rebuild the program that made him in his mentor's image
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Tuscaloosa
none of those people will coach michigan next year
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:51 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
[quote]So is winning another title at LSU, becoming a two time NC, and the best coach in LSU football history. He may be thinking that way.
Do you really believe Miles will win another title as long as Nicky is coaching in the SEC ?
Do you really believe Miles will win another title as long as Nicky is coaching in the SEC ?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:52 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:it's not about LSU, it's about Michigan.
So is winning another title at LSU, becoming a two time NC, and the best coach in LSU football history. He may be thinking that way.
the question is what reasons would he have to go back there.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:53 pm to Tuscaloosa
As arrogant as that list is, I am surprised that Nick Saban and Bill Billichick are not also on the list. Perhaps the ghost of Vince Lombardi or Bear Bryant?
Seriously, why would a single one of those coaches want to go to Michigan? This is not 1975 any longer. The recruiting landscape has changed dramatically as has relative conference strength and Michigan's prestige. Each one of those coaches is currently at a far more desirable job.
Seriously, why would a single one of those coaches want to go to Michigan? This is not 1975 any longer. The recruiting landscape has changed dramatically as has relative conference strength and Michigan's prestige. Each one of those coaches is currently at a far more desirable job.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:53 pm to FISH N TIGER
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Do you really believe Miles will win another title as long as Nicky is coaching in the SEC ?
I'm not sure, I was just thinking for Miles.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:55 pm to 1999
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Patterson only has eyes for LSU.
Perfect then...
Miles to Michigan
Patterson to LSU
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:55 pm to LeonPhelps
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Seriously, why would a single one of those coaches want to go to Michigan?
Do you seriously see no scenario where Miles would want to go back home to Michigan? Im all for thinking he isnt going to leave, he probably wont, but to say there is no chance is just head in the sand delusion.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:55 pm to supatigah
quote:yeah, but those two schools are in your division, along with Penn State who has as much upside as Michigan.
other than tOSU and MSU the B1G is terrible
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
Harbaugh(s), Stoops, Miles?
Michigan is truly delusional
They'll probably end up with a MAC coach.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:59 pm to Sevendust912
Les goes to Michigan to help build the program, then he will take over as AD.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:00 pm to 1999
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Patterson only has eyes for LSU.
yeah ok
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
Michigan will only target coaches that have won Super Bowls or National Championships; they certainly would not hire a coach from San Diego State.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:00 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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So is winning another title at LSU, becoming a two time NC, and the best coach in LSU football history.
That going to happen?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:01 pm to The Godfather
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Do you seriously see no scenario where Miles would want to go back home to Michigan? Im all for thinking he isnt going to leave, he probably wont, but to say there is no chance is just head in the sand delusion.
I am in the camp that would love to see Miles go to Michigan, but it would be a terrible move on his part.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:02 pm to LeonPhelps
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The recruiting landscape has changed dramatically
That must be why they have struggled to recruit
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:02 pm to Tuscaloosa
Butch Jones would be a good fit
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