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The committee knows what they are doing and I hate it
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:33 am
they are setting it up exactly how everyone wants it but the SEC, and other conference fans are so blinded by 3 SEC teams in the final 4 right now they can't even see it
4 conference champions in the playoff, that's this committee's biggest desire
just this week one of the 3 SEC teams will be eliminated from contention Ole Miss plays Auburn (no 2 loss teams are getting in, i think will be the case...and I think they made that clear with this poll). State plays Bama and Ole Miss, Bama plays State and Auburn, Auburn plays UGA and Bama and Ole miss, Ole miss plays State and Auburn a then you have an SECCG
The committee gets to play both sides of the fence and say we dont care about about this and we don't care about that, look we arent scared to put 3 SEC teams in!! Hell I heard the talking heads on tv and radio praising them for being able to look beyond conference affiliation to put the true 4 best teams in and not caring about making anyone mad
But the committee can clearly see the SEC will systematically cannibalize itself one by one...leaving you with one 1 loss team or undefeated team or possibly a 2 loss SEC champ. Short of everybody losing 2 games but the top 2 or 3 teams. Things will go exactly to their plan
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:35 am to ThePoo
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Things will go exactly to their plan
Ohio State, Notre Dame, Florida State and Marshall. Marshall wins it all.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:35 am to ThePoo
I think everybody realizes that those SEC teams will sort itself out...
how is that the committee's fault?
how is that the committee's fault?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:36 am to ThePoo
If the SEC champ has 2 losses they are in unless that team is UGA.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:47 am to ThePoo
If State and Auburn win out (not an easy task) are they not in though. One would be SEC champion (State) and the other (Auburn) the dreaded" non-conference champion" team. It would be tough to throw out Auburn and their body of work as it would be far superior to the Ducks, Horn Frogs, Gold Domers, etc.
Not that I want any of this to happen.
Not that I want any of this to happen.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:09 am to ThePoo
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The committee gets to play both sides of the fence and say we dont care about about this and we don't care about that, look we arent scared to put 3 SEC teams in!!
So I guess they should have ranked MSU #1, Auburn #5, Ole Miss #9, and Alabaama #13. Would that satisfy SEC fans more?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:10 am to ThePoo
right now the committee sees that the SEC will work itself out so 4 SEC teams are in the top 6. Who ever wins the west out of those 4 teams assuming they win the SEC championship will be in the playoff everyone else will miss out.
My prediction
#1 SEC west champ (assuming they win the SEC championship)
#2 Florida State
#3 Oregon
#4 TCU
On the Bubble
Big 10 Champ
Notre Dame
Georgia
SEC west runner up (Only way this happens if both the big 12 champ and the big 10 champ have 2 losses, and the SEC west runner up simply lost a tiebreaker to the SEC west champ).
The committee will give advantages to conference champs.
a west runner up must be so clearly better than a big 10 and big 12 champ for them to make it.
FSU is likely in even if they are upset.
Oregon just needs to win out to get in.
If both the big 10 and the big 12 have a champ of 2+ losses than a SEC west runner up sneaks in. But I don't think that happens.
My prediction
#1 SEC west champ (assuming they win the SEC championship)
#2 Florida State
#3 Oregon
#4 TCU
On the Bubble
Big 10 Champ
Notre Dame
Georgia
SEC west runner up (Only way this happens if both the big 12 champ and the big 10 champ have 2 losses, and the SEC west runner up simply lost a tiebreaker to the SEC west champ).
The committee will give advantages to conference champs.
a west runner up must be so clearly better than a big 10 and big 12 champ for them to make it.
FSU is likely in even if they are upset.
Oregon just needs to win out to get in.
If both the big 10 and the big 12 have a champ of 2+ losses than a SEC west runner up sneaks in. But I don't think that happens.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:11 am to ThePoo
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4 conference champions in the playoff, that's this committee's biggest desire
I'd have no problem with that if they took the SEC champ (no matter how ugly) the 2 best looking conference champs from the other P5s, and the best mid-major conference champ - if that was the system (until the SEC stops looking so much better than everybody else) - it wouldn't be perfect, but it would be alright.
This is how it is going to be, though, until it gets to 8 - I'm not sure it will ever get to 16, but I think it gets to 8, just because there will arguments - this first year - for 5 through 8 over at least 1, if not 2 of the top 4.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:16 am to ThePoo
What if Miss St and Auburn win out? It will be tough to move Auburn out of the 3 spot if they win out, beating Ole Miss, UGA, and Alabama. The committee would catch ABSOLUTE hell if they eliminated Auburn after finishing out the year with those kind of wins; especially after being ranked 3rd in the initial polls.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:18 am to ThePoo
Ole Miss and Miss St. being much better than usual, and the SEC schedule is all part of the Playoff Committee's nefarious plan?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:19 am to ThePoo
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just this week one of the 3 SEC teams will be eliminated from contention Ole Miss plays Auburn (no 2 loss teams are getting in
You are correct in the first part... Only 1 SEC team will get in. The champion. Let's just hope its from the West and it not be UGA.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:30 am to ThePoo
OP, that is the first thing that went through my mind as well, they know what they are doing and did current rankings on purpose to please SEC folks knowing full well that in the end we will kill each other off and thus please the rest of the country as well.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:55 am to ThePoo
quote:Creeping mediocrity. It's how we do our classrooms, it's how we do our politics, it's how we do our businesses, why not also how we select our "best" teams? I hated the playoff idea before it ever became reality. I hate it more now.
4 conference champions in the playoff, that's this committee's biggest desire
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:58 am to ThePoo
Who really cares? As long as the SEC champ gets in, it's all gravy. A second SEC team will almost assuredly be from the same division as the SEC champ, giving them a pass on having to play in the SECCG a la Bama 2011. frick rematches, the SEC champ should earn the right to go feast on the three that get in.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:39 am to ThePoo
all any team can do is keep winning.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:42 am to ThePoo
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4 conference champions in the playoff, that's this committee's biggest desire
I just laugh at anyone who says this so definitively right now.
You have no idea. The season has to play out. The committee has said over and over again that they feel no pressure to put 4 conference champions in the playoff just to avoid having two from one conference.
The committee just NAILED the rankings yesterday, and people are still finding things to bitch about.
It's silly. Just stop.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:44 am to ThePoo
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that's this committee's biggest desire
Their desire should be to ensure that the 4 teams with the best records after playing 12 games vs. the strongest completion face off.
Speaking to LSU, how does one look at the L's or W's and come up with Okla. over LSU? Neb. has played one team in the committee's top 25 and loss. Their schedule, in difficulty, doesn't even come close to that of LSU. Looks to me like the only thing they have over LSU they are a 1 L team.
I was hoping SOS would play a bigger part than simply any one with 1 L will be better ranked than anyone with 2 L's.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:46 am to ThePoo
Making sure only 1 SEC team gets in actually helps the SEC
I don't think any SEC Champion would be afraid of a Big 10,12 or PAC 12 Champ.
I don't think any SEC Champion would be afraid of a Big 10,12 or PAC 12 Champ.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:02 am to ThePoo
It's funny how the committee apparently did not take into account the criterion of "team improvement". Clearly LSU's 19th ranking shows that the committee is not concerned with teams that improve over the season. 
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:07 am to ThePoo
Yet when the two best teams meant Alabama getting a rematch under the BCS system, everyone bitched. The SEC West teams play each other and one comes out on top. Then they play the best from the East and we get an SEC champ. There are no second chances. A conference title has to mean SOMETHING.
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