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re: Michigan Governor signs law banning direct sale of Tesla Motors' cars

Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:22 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
125438 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:22 am to
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That's not because of people using solar, that's because of the energy companies being money grubbing arse hats.



So what's the deal with Entergy? They no longer allow net metering?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
91238 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

What do unions have to do with this?


The UAW is the dominant force in Michigan politics. Tesla is a non-UAW shop.

You do the math.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
30722 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:25 am to
Only in Detroit.
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:28 am to
So much for this whole ad campaign huh?

Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19939 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

what's the deal with Entergy? They no longer allow net metering?


I think by law they have to, but entergy only gives you 25kw, and you ha e to pay for the meter to be installed and even if you return energy to the grid, you still get charged a me that bill.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:34 am to
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Entergy profits go down, your costs go up to cover the difference.


That's not because of people using solar, that's because of the energy companies being money grubbing arse hats.


To Entergy...there is no difference.

You use solar, their profits shrink, they raise costs.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
57834 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:38 am to
Dan Gilbert

quote:

Detroit billionaire Dan Gilbert today jabbed Gov. Rick Snyder for signing a bill that ensures Silicon Valley automaker Tesla Motors can't sell cars directly to consumers in Michigan.

Gilbert, who said he's a fan of Snyder, raised the issue while guest-hosting CNBC's "Squawk Box" and interviewing Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.

He said Snyder's move "sends a bad message" about the influence of lobbyists in lawmaking.

"To me you have to have a philosophy and you have to stick to it and you can't let your personal circumstances compromise that," Gilbert said.

He also criticized the powerful auto dealer lobby for battling Tesla, which wants to sell cars through "stores" instead of franchises.

"Why don't you man up and compete like everybody else does?" Gilbert said.

LINK /

Lulz that the biggest union-busting free market freddies, the Detroit Chamber of Commerce, support this:
quote:

The Chamber believes that the Detroit region, as the epicenter of the global automotive industry and the leader in next generation mobility, should have a business environment where all participants play by a common set of rules," Baruah said. "The Chamber supports the rationale Gov. Snyder utilized for signing this legislation and looks forward to the continued discussion the governor calls for."

This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
58959 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:39 am to
Crony capitalism, pure and simple. Consumers be damned.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
23460 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:39 am to
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Really???? Michigan has a Republican governor and Republicans control both the house and senate.

Oh, yes. This is clearly the doing of the evil Republicans. The Democrats and their unions have no pull in the state of Michigan.
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3908 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:47 am to
If you still live in michigan, you reap what you sow.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56692 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:52 am to
Pure Michigan.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:57 am to
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Oh, yes. This is clearly the doing of the evil Republicans.

Not sure if I understand your sarcasm. Are you going to ignore the fact that a Republican signed this into law and they control the state legislature? Also that Rick Perry signed the same thing into effect in Texas? And that Chris Christie did the same thing in New Jersey? And Jan Brewer in Arizona? And Bob McDonnell in Virginia? LINK.

In fact, Republicans control the state legislatures in Texas, Arizona, and Virginia. The only states where Tesla is banned with Democrat houses are Maryland and NJ. Citation.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37211 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:08 am to
Exactly Gary. We partisan fight just like they want us to, but to them their bipartisan priority list is:

1- money
2- their personal gain
3- electability
4- their political party
5- the people

Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:10 am to
well sure, follow the money.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54765 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:12 am to
Just wondering something. If you buy directly from the factory just where in the hell do you take your car for repairs and service? That right there would be the only reason I'm against direct sales.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1679 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Just wondering something. If you buy directly from the factory just where in the hell do you take your car for repairs and service? That right there would be the only reason I'm against direct sales.

Are you trolling? Tesla does the repairs at the store you bought your car from. They are not asking anyone to ship their cars to Fremont, California for repairs. Come on man...
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
38175 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:30 am to
quote:

So they have some in NO East?


Nola doesn't have a market for supercars.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9985 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Just wondering something. If you buy directly from the factory just where in the hell do you take your car for repairs and service? That right there would be the only reason I'm against direct sales


Tesla has service centers in most states and mobile service techs. They are plannign a service center for New Orleans due to the growth of sales here.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54765 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Tesla does the repairs at the store you bought your car from.


I thought this was about buying directly from the factory, you know, like mail order stuff.

Is it not?
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17681 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Dealerships say this protects consumers.


Exactly. Where will Tesla owners get ripped off for a bunch of bullshite, unnecessary service if they don't have shady dealership service departments to go to?
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