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re: FBD 7/3
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:27 am to Dav
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:27 am to Dav
I read that yesterday. I agree and disagree on a few things.
I disagree when it comes to some beers. The majority of beers are alive. If you want people to enjoy the product you put out, then go the route NB went and pasteurize your beer. Otherwise deal with it.
I agree about saving stuff for a special event to happen. The only beers I save for "special events" are actually planned events and they usually involve vertical tastings.
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“The product that you pop in five years isn’t the product that the brewer released—it’s what the brewer released, and then you did something to it,” he explains. “I don’t tell someone to paint watercolors on the Mona Lisa and then call it better.”
I disagree when it comes to some beers. The majority of beers are alive. If you want people to enjoy the product you put out, then go the route NB went and pasteurize your beer. Otherwise deal with it.
I agree about saving stuff for a special event to happen. The only beers I save for "special events" are actually planned events and they usually involve vertical tastings.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:28 am to bbrou33
Miss you too bro. We'll do some damage together soon. Heading up to the camp a couple times in July. You gotta come with.
Break from beer for the moment. At wakin bakin in mid city for breakfast then heading to msy.
Break from beer for the moment. At wakin bakin in mid city for breakfast then heading to msy.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:29 am to wiltznucs
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NoBD's for me today. I'm running a 10K tomorrow morning and need to hydrate.
Beer is not going to affect your race tomorrow unless you get totally shitfaced. Have a few today and enjoy your race tomorrow.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:30 am to Woody
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I'd rather have 3 or 4 12oz bottles of a special release than a bomber or two.
and there is the problem. Hoarding could be worse. Instead of you having 22 oz in your home, you might have 36.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:31 am to LoneStarTiger
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I was just about to make a comment about how they then couldn't charge $15 for 22 oz bottles, but then I remembered the $7.50 12-oz bottles of Prairie Bomb I have at home
Mikkeller has no problems charging $8-10 for a 12 ounce bottle of often mediocre beer. At least Prairie makes beer that's worth it.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:36 am to BMoney
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I was just about to make a comment about how they then couldn't charge $15 for 22 oz bottles, but then I remembered the $7.50 12-oz bottles of Prairie Bomb I have at home Mikkeller has no problems charging $8-10 for a 12 ounce bottle of often mediocre beer. At least Prairie makes beer that's worth it.
I wonder how much prairie would cost if it was brewed across the pond. Terrible comparison imo.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:38 am to BMoney
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Mikkeller has no problems charging $8-10 for a 12 ounce bottle of often mediocre beer. At least Prairie makes beer that's worth it.
I'm with you there
and there are several beers I have at home that I would pay $8 for a 12 oz bottle, if that's how they were sold.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:41 am to LoneStarTiger
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Instead of you having 22 oz in your home, you might have 36.
Assuming I could by 2 12oz bottles from every 1 22oz bomber they allow me to buy, the difference is pretty negligible. I personally tend to drink the 12oz bottles faster without hoarding.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:44 am to LoneStarTiger
Honestly the biggest reason i cellar/hoard is the "might never have this beer again" feeling. I have two bottles of BCBCS in the closet. Logic says drink as fresh as possible but knowing the "difficulty" of obtaining that beer makes it hard. Same goes with a lot of the coffee or spice forward beers in my cellar.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:53 am to Dav
(Paso Robles, CA) – The third and final bottled release of Firestone Walker Brewing Company’s barrel-aged Double DBA begins on July 12, setting the stage for an as-yet-unchosen replacement next year.
“The 2014 Double DBA is a big and complex beer that still offers the balance and drinkability that are the hallmarks of DBA,” said Brewmaster Matt Brynildson. “This vintage is outstanding, so Double DBA is leaving us on a high note.”
He added, “This beer has served us well, but there’s a finite amount of space and brewing capacity dedicated to our barrel-aged beers. In order to brew and share new barrel-aged beers, we need to rotate some out, starting with Double DBA. So get it while you can.”
Other beers in the brewery’s barrel-aged program include Bravo, Helldorado, Parabajava, PNC, Saucerful of Secrets and Brownie Wine—but it remains to be seen which will replace Double DBA in 2015.
As with previous vintages, the 2014 Double DBA imperial special bitter is Firestone Walker’s flagship DBA brewed at double strength, using twice the amount of malts and hops. As with the regular DBA, the 2014 Double DBA was partially fermented in a union of new American oak barrels. After fermentation, the beer was racked and returned to the union barrels as well as bourbon barrels, where it aged for one year. The barrel mix for the 2014 Double DBA included vessels from Woodford Reserve, Elijah Craig and Four Roses.
Bovada had Parabajava (Coffee Parabola) as the -165 favorite to take over in the series
“The 2014 Double DBA is a big and complex beer that still offers the balance and drinkability that are the hallmarks of DBA,” said Brewmaster Matt Brynildson. “This vintage is outstanding, so Double DBA is leaving us on a high note.”
He added, “This beer has served us well, but there’s a finite amount of space and brewing capacity dedicated to our barrel-aged beers. In order to brew and share new barrel-aged beers, we need to rotate some out, starting with Double DBA. So get it while you can.”
Other beers in the brewery’s barrel-aged program include Bravo, Helldorado, Parabajava, PNC, Saucerful of Secrets and Brownie Wine—but it remains to be seen which will replace Double DBA in 2015.
As with previous vintages, the 2014 Double DBA imperial special bitter is Firestone Walker’s flagship DBA brewed at double strength, using twice the amount of malts and hops. As with the regular DBA, the 2014 Double DBA was partially fermented in a union of new American oak barrels. After fermentation, the beer was racked and returned to the union barrels as well as bourbon barrels, where it aged for one year. The barrel mix for the 2014 Double DBA included vessels from Woodford Reserve, Elijah Craig and Four Roses.
Bovada had Parabajava (Coffee Parabola) as the -165 favorite to take over in the series
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:53 am to Tiger Ryno
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You don't need to hydrate for a 6 mile run baw.
This is what I was thinking. Last time I ran a 10k we were downing beers every mile.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:54 am to Dav
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I have about 30 or so beers in my cellar that I really don't know why I'm aging
This..I shoot B a message every now and then asking if I should hold on to something or drink it..
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:04 am to Dav
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Logic says drink as fresh as possible but knowing the "difficulty" of obtaining that beer makes it hard
You're gonna drink them when they are declining. Is that really better than drinking it fresh and enjoying it now? I'd say it's a resounding no.
I drink fresh. That's my philosophy, but I do have like 8 beers "cellared" just to test the differences. All of them are Imperial Stouts except some BCBW. I had them all fresh and don't have this attitude that I can't drink them because I may never have that beer again. There are plenty of great beers out there to keep me satisfied than buying a beer just to go sit. You buy beer to drink.
And I don't consider cellaring the same as hoarding. I hate the hoarding that goes on within the craft beer community. It's very much against the best part of the community: sharing delicious beer.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:09 am to JimMorrison
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You're gonna drink them when they are declining. Is that really better than drinking it fresh and enjoying it now? I'd say it's a resounding no.
That blanket statement has many flaws.
One of the best beers i ever had was a 3 year old bcbs.
Big boozy imperial stouts definitely improve with age.
Sn/rr brux collab was a million times better after a few years.
Some beers should be aged.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:11 am to JimMorrison
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My man StalkerWise!
If you live in NOLA, or even visit there regularly, you better recognize that bar. It's too distinctive not to recognize it. No Stalk, IMO.
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Mikkeller has no problems charging $8-10 for a 12 ounce bottle of often mediocre beer. At least Prairie makes beer that's worth it.
This.
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I wonder how much prairie would cost if it was brewed across the pond. Terrible comparison imo.
Don't care. shite beer is shite beer. I always say I'll never buy another Mikkeller, then I do it anyway and bitch about it because it sucks. And it's my own damn fault.
More than likely NoBD, about to meet my grandparents in town for a minute then heading to Birmingham. So. Excited.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:13 am to Matisyeezy
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Birmingham
Hop City is where you need to go.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:14 am to LSUzealot
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This is what I was thinking. Last time I ran a 10k we were downing beers every mile.
I may have one or two today, but I'm not in the shape I should be. Only doing 2 or so miles per day in training.
The race is in Atlanta where the heat is oppressive and I'll be running hills which I don't see a lot of in FL. Last year I dealt with a lot of soreness and cramps in my calves. Hope to avoid that this year.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:16 am to BottomlandBrew
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Hop City
It's on the list for sure. Pulled a few places from Beer Advocate. Any recommendations on lunch and dinner? Casual. I'll be meeting the lady and we'll be dining with another couple that are our friends from grad school. fricking Barners. At least they're not Gumps.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:17 am to rutiger
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That blanket statement has many flaws.
I was responding to him aging Bourbon County Coffee because he feels like he won't ever get to have that beer again.
I'm not against aging but a lot of people do age the wrong beers, which is what I was getting at.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:18 am
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