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re: Former Tiger great Malcolm Scott is living under an overpass.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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He was a good player. I'm not sure I'd label him a "Tiger great." Sad situation, nevertheless. Seems to me, much of this situation is the result of enabling, but I don't pretend to have an answer.
Please explain. Specifically, how has he been enabled?
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:36 pm to Slippy
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Malcolm was a good receiving tight end. He was on the 1981 Orange Bowl team.
The picture's caption says that he is 41 yrs old. If that is right then he would have been an LSU freshman around 1991 so the 1981 O Bowl would be a little out of reach for him.
If the article was accurate.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:38 pm to Dick Macho
quote:There is another guy with the first name of "Scott" mentioned in the article who is 41 years old.
The picture's caption says that he is 41 yrs old. If that is right then he would have been an LSU freshman around 1991 so the 1981 O Bowl would be a little out of reach for him.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:40 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Did you? There were two dudes with the last name Scott. This was the other guy, not Malcolm:
Yeah I did and you are correct. I missed that it wasn't talking about him there. Doesn't really change anything about what I said though. Without 3 years of jail time, it would be significantly easier for him to find a job now wouldn't it?
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:40 pm to justustm2
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Please explain. Specifically, how has he been enabled?
I was speaking more generally of the situation with regard to that "encampment", not so much his situation specifically -- of which I don't claim to know anything.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:44 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Without 3 years of jail time
Way to make him sound like a victim...
Without breaking the law he wouldn't have gotten 3 years of jail time. The jail time insinuates that he was a repeat offender with the marijuana offense.
There's this thing the people of this country used to value and that was personal responsibility, wish that would make a comeback like fashions do.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:44 pm to Dick Macho
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1981 Orange Bowl team
That Orange Bowl was after the 1982 season and was actually played on January 1, 1983.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:49 pm to Scrowe
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Way to make him sound like a victim... Without breaking the law he wouldn't have gotten 3 years of jail time. The jail time insinuates that he was a repeat offender with the marijuana offense.
Way to not be able to read a two sentence post that you are responding to, dumbass.
He didn't actually go to jail for three years. It was a different Scott in the article.
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There's this thing the people of this country used to value and that was personal responsibility, wish that would make a comeback like fashions do.
Go back and read the first response to the OP and take note of who posted that. Thanks pumpkin.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:55 pm to PurpleAndGold86
pretty good article that talks about a guy in houston
LINK
oh he has one, ask him what it is and I guarantee you he doesnt know
no SS card, no address, no birth certificate
so no birth certificate, no photo ID means no job
unless he is working for cash like he says in the article
he is a 53 yr/o man that lives under an interstate in NOLA. what makes you think he can work in his current state? Do you think he is able bodied? eating out of dumpsters? drinking or drugging himself into a stupor everyday. Do you want him cooking your hamburger?
LINK
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The next day Carbonneau told one of his friends in the Liquid Lunch Bunch what had happened. "I told you," his friend said. "I told you they lock you in at night."
But his drinking buddy could see that Tilghman wanted to help. Adept at working the system, he suggested a middle path back onto the grid - the Way Station at Palmer Memorial Episcopal Church and Operation ID at First Presbyterian. On Tuesdays and Thursdays, staff at the Way Station screened applicants trying to get their documents; staff at Operation ID guided those who qualified through the process.
That became Plan B.
By then Tilghman realized she couldn't change Carbonneau - he had to change himself. So she asked for his buy-in. She was happy to take him to Operation ID, but he had to go through the screening process by himself. If she was driving, he had to be on the bridge and ready to go when she said. Also, they were going to be in and out of a lot of government buildings, and stand in a lot of long lines. No griping.
He agreed.
The biggest riddle in the bureaucratic process was how to get ID for Carbonneau when he didn't have so much as a postcard bearing his name.
He began by obtaining a copy of his second marriage certificate by giving his name and that of his ex-wife to a clerk in a branch of the Harris County Clerk's Office. He was thrilled when Tilghman pointed to his name in her computer.
"I'm alive," he said to her. "I thought I was dead."
It was fairly easy to apply for a voter registration card by mail if Carbonneau could remember the last four digits of his Social Security number. Even after all those years, he could. But there was another hurdle: Carbonneau needed an address.
Tilghman wrote, "Under a bridge."
They waited for the card to appear in Tilghman's mailbox, then learned his application had been denied. Without a more specific address, a clerk explained, Carbonneau couldn't be assigned to a voting precinct.
They filled out the form one more time. This time they wrote, "Under the bridge at Woodway and 610."
That application was processed quickly.
By mid-April, Carbonneau had two forms of ID. He brought both of them to the Bureau of Vital Statistics to get his birth certificate.
"You can pick it up in an hour," yet another clerk told them.
That April afternoon, they also drove to a Texas Department of Public Safety office to get a laminated ID card.
They would have to wait a few weeks for the actual document, but they were closing in.
Religion for a recluse
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How does he not have a SSN? Everyone has a SSN.
oh he has one, ask him what it is and I guarantee you he doesnt know
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Anyone can get one of these. Doesn't have to be a driver's license.
no SS card, no address, no birth certificate
so no birth certificate, no photo ID means no job
unless he is working for cash like he says in the article
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How is he too incapacitated to work a "regular" job?
he is a 53 yr/o man that lives under an interstate in NOLA. what makes you think he can work in his current state? Do you think he is able bodied? eating out of dumpsters? drinking or drugging himself into a stupor everyday. Do you want him cooking your hamburger?
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:00 pm to supatigah
There's hosts of homeless organizations out there to assist people with these ministerial issues (i.e., mailing addresses, ID's, SS Cards).
As you allude to, however, the situation is often much more complex than that.
I'm just saying, those are way down on the list of hurdles these folks typically need to overcome.
As you allude to, however, the situation is often much more complex than that.
I'm just saying, those are way down on the list of hurdles these folks typically need to overcome.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:01 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Any reason he couldn't get a job at McDonalds or Burger King? Would provide him a steady check and he could at least get a place to put his head at night...
He says he works construction jobs at minimum wage. How much do you think a fast food job pays? Enough for an apartment? Maybe. Enough for food, clothes and transportation? No.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm just saying, those are way down on the list of hurdles these folks typically need to overcome.
true, but it is often first on the list of excuses you will get from them when you try to help them.
what is usually way down on their version of the list of hurdles is they are an alcoholic, they are a drug addict, they live under a bridge, etc
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:05 pm to Slickback
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That's the key. Most of these guys (don't know his story so not judging him) have mental issues, or are heavily addicted to drugs and/or alcohol - which is why they can't hold a job. With unemployment and disability, food stamps, section 8 allowances, and other assistance programs there's usually more to it than "hitting a rough patch" for the homeless folks out there.
Getting on those assistance programs, with the exception of food stamps, can be extremely difficult.
In order to get unemployment, he would have had to work at a qualifying job (ie not under the table...which was probably all he could get) Disability is very difficult to get and often takes multiple attempts, and even with a lawyer. Section 8 has waiting lists.
When you couple that with the person having mental issues or addiction, it usually is more than a rough patch
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:06 pm to justustm2
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“The TV stations almost did a story on me,” he added. “If you write about me, make sure you mention I’m an LSU Tiger.”
This statement in and of itself shows a guy who is looking for a handout solely because he is a former LSU football player. What does it matter that he was an LSU football player? Is he more worth helping than anybody else down there just because he played college football 30 years ago? I guarantee most, if not all, of the people under that overpass did not have the opportunity to attend the state's largest university with the potential to earn a college degree FREE OF CHARGE.
There are many who are homeless through no fault of their own, such as those with (sometimes severe) physical/mental disabilities. Those are the people who TRULY deserve help. This guy at least has the wherewithal to understand that being a former LSU football player may curry some favor in this state. Thus, I doubt his mental faculties are THAT impaired (if at all). Excluding those with true mental and physical disabilities, there are many others who are homeless because they flat have no real desire to not be.
America's "poor" are not even close to those in other countries throughout the world. This country has the ability to, and does, provide so many social safety nets that it's hard for someone who truly does not want to be homeless, to be homeless. My job puts me in contact with people on a daily basis who voluntarily do not work for months and years, yet they still have food on the table, vehicles, roofs over their heads, and relatively nice clothes, appliances, etc. How can that happen when your yearly (reported) income is between $5,000 and $15,000? It's because all of their true life's necessities are provided.
I'm sorry if I don't collapse with sadness over a guy who got an opportunity to do something (play college and profession football) that VERY few people in this state get. I'm more inclined to help the person who was born in to shitty circumstances and never had any opportunity to better their life.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:11 pm to supatigah
wow.... I ran into him several times bout 10-12 years ago.. he was doing pretty good...
had an interesting nick name at LSU..
had an interesting nick name at LSU..
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:14 pm to recruitnik
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He says he works construction jobs at minimum wage.
He says he works an "occasional" construction job? How often do you think that means he actually works and gets paid?
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How much do you think a fast food job pays?
At least $7.25 an hour. Full time at 7.25 an hour is $290 a week before taxes.
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Enough for an apartment? Maybe.
Ok, that would get him out from under the overpass now wouldn't it?
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Enough for food,
He's surviving, so obviously he is making do with this issue now. $1,160 wouldn't hurt his chances of eating any from where they are now.
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clothes
McDonalds gives out free uniforms to employees.
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transportation? No.
$1,160 a month is PLENTY enough for an apartment or shithole housing and a method of transportation to and from work. If you can't find any transportation, walk. It is a shitload better than living under the interstate.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:16 pm to Alt26
We can't worry about people like this...we have to worry about the thousands of people crossing our borders daily...
It's a sad time in our country....
It's a sad time in our country....
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:16 pm to choupiquesushi
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had an interesting nick name at LSU..
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:17 pm to supatigah
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How does he not have a SSN? Everyone has a SSN. oh he has one, ask him what it is and I guarantee you he doesnt know
That's fine. But he still has one. There is a record of his existence.
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Anyone can get one of these. Doesn't have to be a driver's license. no SS card, no address, no birth certificate so no birth certificate, no photo ID means no job
Michael Oher was able to get this. There was basically no record of his entire existence and the record that did exist was under a different name.
He played football for LSU. There is plenty proof of his existence out there if he wanted to obtain it for these reasons.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:19 pm to TigerNlc
Gigolo...
I know some of his former Purple knights have tried to help him..
I know some of his former Purple knights have tried to help him..
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