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re: The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office cancels the Redskins trademark
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to KosmoCramer
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to KosmoCramer
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Picking and choosing based on the values of a sect of society seems like a dangerous thing to me.
The USPTO is doing a terrible job these days on many fronts, but if that is and has been an official rule of trademarking, and someone went through the trouble of an 8 year challenge, it seems like they came to the right conclusion. It's pretty undeniable that the term is a racial slur (even though that's clearly not the intent or use of the trademark) and I seriously doubt it would be the choice today if this were an expansion team. The only reason people don't want it changed is because it's built up a lot of brand equity as a non racist word that people are heavily invested in. This is kind of a Tyranny of the Minority situation, but I can't say they don't have a valid complaint against the name. It's one of those situation where one group is going to be told to GFY and the law and media appears to be siding against the NFL.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:03 am to hendersonshands
It's happening..........
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:04 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:
Is it really costing the league and team money, though? Its a big talking point right now, but are fans actually changing the way they spend money on the Redskins and the NFL based on this issue?
no more money being made off of RG3/DJAX jerseys
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:07 am to Byron Bojangles III
What if they just changed the name to the Dirty Scalping Savages? That doesn't apply really to any one group.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:09 am to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
This is about money. When the NFL realizes that the name is costing the league and teams money it will be changed. This is not about free speech or political correctness it's about money and soon the name redskins will cost the league money and it will be changed and what you think or feel about it won't matter.
How is it going to cost the league money? The NFL is the most popular sport in the US by a large margin. Do you think fans aren't going to show up to Redskin games because the name that has been around for 80+ years is now "offensive"? More importantly, do you think companies are going stop running ads on tv broadcasts which capture the largest and most diverse audience in the country? They may put up a "strong" front initially, but the reality is that they're not going to pass up that degree of exposure for their product/services because a very small (albeit very vocal) portion of the population is upset.
The NFL doesn't have to change a thing because you know what? YOU'RE GOING TO WATCH ON SUNDAYS
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:10 am to Pettifogger
quote:Not what I said. I said I'm using the word correctly, and I'm saying so as it pertains to its dictionary definition, not your implied, incomplete, selectively provided definition.
Uh, tell me how a word used in reference to a sports team relates to the concept of inherent racial superiority or inferiority?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:10 am to JG77056
What a bunch of dumbasses these people are. Oh you are offended by a nickname of a pro sports team? Well just go down and have their patent and trademark cancelled so ANYBODY can now use it to make money off of it and not just the owners of the team
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:11 am to Pettifogger
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I'm glad your campaign of socially guilty hand-wringing has been successful in this monumental effort to improve the plight of Native Americans.
Now I'm sure the ills in their society will be cured by this campaign (despite very few Native Americans actually participating in this quest for liberation).
God, white people are so awesome, righting wrongs and all.
Much less to do with guilt than common sense. To act as if the term Redskin is not disparaging is woefully disingenuous. I wouldn't be surprised if Snyder wanted this outcome, as it will force his hand and he can deflect blame amidst the outcry. New gear, mo' money, less bad PR.
It won't fix anything about the ills of the past, but eliminating idiocy like this from prominent acceptance is a step in moving on socially.
There is no other pro team with a moniker remotely close to the Redskins. Not Indian, not Brave, not anything.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:12 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:11 am to Alt26
quote:Yeah, two cats I know named Merriam-Webster and Oxford. Pure propaganda.
The only reason today's "progressive" knows/thinks it's offensive is because someone told them such.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:12 am to hendersonshands
Good.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:12 am to ballscaster
From Merriam Webster...
red·skin\'red-?skin\
noun
usually offensive
: american indian
First use: 1699
red·skin\'red-?skin\
noun
usually offensive
: american indian
First use: 1699
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:14 am to hendersonshands
quote:
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:16 am to The Third Leg
Be honest. Before any of this started being an issue for the white guilt group, did you even know the term redskin was racist? If you did, then did it cross your mind every time you heard or said it? And also if it's so racist and bad then why do you feel comfortable saying(typing) it but you wouldn't dare say or type the N word?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:17 am to ballscaster
quote:
Not what I said. I said I'm using the word correctly, and I'm saying so as it pertains to its dictionary definition, not your implied, incomplete, selectively provided definition.
Haha, I gave you the definition.
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:19 am to hendersonshands
quote:
Amanda Blackhorse
They need to cancel her name while they're at it.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:19 am to hendersonshands
quote:
am extremely happy that the ruled in our favor,” [b]Blackhorse said
Oh heeelllll naw. Change dat shite
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:21 am to Finkle is Einhorn
quote:Yes. I joked about it with friends as far back as I can remember (mid-80's). The earliest commentary on the subject I can remember is a young flat-topped Chris Rock on Weekend Update with Dennis Miller in 1990 saying "Washington Redskins? That's a racial slur. That's like saying New York N---az." This got a 100% positive response from the audience.
Before any of this started being an issue for the white guilt group, did you even know the term redskin was racist?
quote:I'll get in trouble for saying n in mixed company at work. I won't get in trouble for referring to the Washington football club as "Redskins."
And also if it's so racist and bad then why do you feel comfortable saying(typing) it but you wouldn't dare say or type the N word?
If I worked with any native Americans, I wouldn't call them redskins because that's retarded and impolite.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:22 am to Pettifogger
quote:Still missing part of it. Give it up.
Haha, I gave you the definition.
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:22 am to Finkle is Einhorn
I have much family there in DC and it's been a discussion for years. Long before it went national.
Times change, either change with them or be left for dead. We, as a nation, have decided to move beyond stupid shite like this.
Maybe this would fly in Wisconsin or Louisiana or Iowa, but not in America's Capital.
Times change, either change with them or be left for dead. We, as a nation, have decided to move beyond stupid shite like this.
Maybe this would fly in Wisconsin or Louisiana or Iowa, but not in America's Capital.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:23 am to The Third Leg
quote:Obviously the Golden Eagles and Warhawks would disagree.
Maybe this would fly in Wisconsin or Louisiana or Iowa, but not in America's Capital.
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