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Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people

Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:40 am
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Today, Colorado's Civil Rights Commission ruled that Phillips did violate civil rights law by doing so. A judge found the same in December; today's seven-member panel just agreed.


Will he take this to an appeals court?


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"I will stand by my convictions until somebody shuts me down," he told the AP after the ruling. But the Commission says he has to bake for everyone now. Phillips owns the Masterpiece Cakeshop in the Denver suburb of Lakewood and is a self-identified devout Christian.




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Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80360 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:43 am to
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Cake baker loses appeal... Must bake for all people


fricking ridiculous... A private business should be able to choose who it wants to do business with.


And this is coming from a pro-gay marriage person.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64665 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:44 am to
He MUST bake now?
Well so much for freedom in the pot smokin state
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54259 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:45 am to
Is there some law to prohibit him from charging say $100 for a cake for a man-woman marriage and $1,000 for a same sex marriage?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15919 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:51 am to
Who was on here it the other day that said Christians don't experience persecution for their beliefs?
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9055 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:56 am to
Interesting take to say the least....

"You cannot refuse to make a profit!"
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:57 am to
Honest question.. How can he be forced? Sometimes places are way too busy at times to take on added work. Can't he just use that excuse?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68868 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:03 am to
Freedom of association continues to be assaulted.

If same sex people want to run around and pretend they're married, I'm not going to stand in their way.

I will never personally view them as married however.

Maybe he should offer 'faux wedding cakes' to same sexers, and wedding cakes exclusively to heteros.

They would be the same thing but the order form and the bill would clearly be labeled 'faux wedding cake'. They can't tell him what to name his product.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127247 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:07 am to
That's probably going to be ugliest wedding cake ever.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27349 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:19 am to
Here is one issue I have if businesses were allowed to pick and choose...

What if society chose to hate a very small minority of people.

Say, people over 6'9" tall.

Refusing to serve those people will not hurt their business at all. And a business owner who chooses to serve them will not get a bunch of extra business... so he doesn't have much to gain.

So now, people over 6'9" theoretically cannot get groceries, food, clothing, etc. if society decides they are the devil.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45335 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:25 am to
If forced to bake these people a cake I would comply. But I assure you it would be the last cake they ever purchased from me. No I wouldn't harm anyone, but that would be the worst cake they have ever eaten.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99772 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:37 am to
This is bullshite.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 10:46 am to
It's against my religion to bake for whitey.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 11:14 am to
Just not sure Enzo isn't overcompensating here. He bakes wedding cakes, ffs.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:06 pm to
How do dress codes fit into all of this? Is it ok for restaraunts to refuse service because of a person's choice in clothing? People of dress a certain way because of the lifestyle they live.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:17 pm to
Freedom in this nation is gone.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7658 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:46 pm to
It's funny that Christians have taken the gay issue to rally against. This baker isn't refusing jewish cakes, Muslim, or buddhist which are against his religion also.

The religious freedom argument goes out the window when your are cherry picking which parts to follow.

Hell its mentioned eight times in the bible you shouldnt eat shellfish. Yet I don't see anyone refusing to bake a cake for a cajun wedding.

If a woman walks in 6 months pregnant she didn't get refused for a wedding cake even though sex before marriage is wrong.

Refusing service to homosexuals is hate plain and simple
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46617 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:50 pm to
Is anyone in the world more obsessed with gay people than darkhorse?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58394 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 5:49 pm to
I've said this before and I don't know if it would be legal, but can't he simply call his bakery a bakery club and charge one dollar for membership. Then once it's private, deny membership to anyone he wants?
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89780 posts
Posted on 5/31/14 at 8:30 pm to
What if he just charges a shite-ton more for "rainbow" themed cakes?

Too passive aggressive?
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