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re: Just watched some dude get busted for cheating on a final
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:07 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:07 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Must not be a CM major.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:08 pm to White Russian
This guy sounds like a complete tard. Seriously going the calculator route when you aren't allowed one, and also having the cheat sheet in bright yellow? Absolute amateur and an idiot. He deserves the expulsion just for being that stupid.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:12 pm to jdd48
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Who cheats is that manner in college?? I guess I'm just naive maybe, but I didn't think cheat sheets happened at the college level.
The real pros can turn an ordinary object, like an unopened Sr Pepper bottle, into a cheet sheet. Always my go to methord, where I got a DP, cut through the wrapper, wrote on it with a pencil, and then use double stick tape to reseel it.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:13 pm to White Russian
The most difficult classes were always the ones where the professor allowed and encouraged people to bring their note books, cheat sheets, calculators, and textbooks to the test.
I had a class in grad school like that. I somehow rode the curve to an A, but those tests would really shake your confidence. I bombed the first test in that class and spent the rest of the semester chasing it. You had no choice but to become proficient with the course material. Several people were weeded out that semester and I'm pretty sure it was that class that ruined them.
I had a class in grad school like that. I somehow rode the curve to an A, but those tests would really shake your confidence. I bombed the first test in that class and spent the rest of the semester chasing it. You had no choice but to become proficient with the course material. Several people were weeded out that semester and I'm pretty sure it was that class that ruined them.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:26 pm to dewster
Yeah, I've had a few like that. If you had to open the book during the test, it meant you were screwed. The only way the book helped was if you had studied it enough to know exactly where different pieces of information were and you could flip right to it.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to TunaTime
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Must not be a CM major.
It's all we did. In the last materials class, ole girl cried in front the class because on a test with short answers, everyone had the same sentences written out right and wrong. It was hilarious , we had about 8 TA's in there for the final though
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to White Russian
hire lawyer, threaten lawsuit, demand proof.
Most universities will back down because they don't want the bullshite involved with fighting the case.
You will still fail the class, but maybe academic probation.
Most universities will back down because they don't want the bullshite involved with fighting the case.
You will still fail the class, but maybe academic probation.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to White Russian
Yeah, 3 of my 5 classes this semester allowed "cheat sheets". Even with these, I was hardly scratching out a B on the test and I was more stressed out than if I had memorized the material. Now I'm done for good so it is what it is.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:31 pm to fightin tigers
I don't call it cheating, so much as assigning resources...
No one in the real world says "fix this problem, and don't use any resources."
No one in the real world says "fix this problem, and don't use any resources."
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:32 pm to White Russian
I never cheated in college but did in high school a couple of times. The key is not to be a dumb arse about it.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:33 pm to White Russian
Just read what that class was about.
Dude destroyed his career over a class that he will never need in his life.
Prereq.: CSC 2259. Credit will not be given for both this course and CSC 2280 or EE 3750 or EE 3755. Computer arithmetic, design of high-speed adders and multipliers, CPU concepts, instruction fetching and decoding, hardwired control, microprogramming control, main memory, I/O organization, assembly language programming techniques, CPU instruction sets and addressing modes.
Assembly Language?? My Assembly Instructor at LSU many years ago gave us all one piece of advice.. "NEVER EVER take a job where you have to use assembly language"
Dude destroyed his career over a class that he will never need in his life.
Prereq.: CSC 2259. Credit will not be given for both this course and CSC 2280 or EE 3750 or EE 3755. Computer arithmetic, design of high-speed adders and multipliers, CPU concepts, instruction fetching and decoding, hardwired control, microprogramming control, main memory, I/O organization, assembly language programming techniques, CPU instruction sets and addressing modes.
Assembly Language?? My Assembly Instructor at LSU many years ago gave us all one piece of advice.. "NEVER EVER take a job where you have to use assembly language"
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:34 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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No one in the real world says "fix this problem, and don't use any resources."
this.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:35 pm to White Russian
You know the type. You can do all the required homework, practice assignments, and notes from your research and cases (and have them all with you for the exams).....and that professor would still find a way to challenge you. It took a lot of effort on his part to pull that off now that I think about it.
That's the kind of course that forces you to be proficient with the subject matter to survive. It requires a creative professor who enjoys his work. I didn't really start seeing that until higher level undergrad courses and grad school courses.
That's the kind of course that forces you to be proficient with the subject matter to survive. It requires a creative professor who enjoys his work. I didn't really start seeing that until higher level undergrad courses and grad school courses.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:45 pm to PapaPogey
Instructors at universities are typically people that failed in the real world so they don't know that.
In the Real world for a CSC graduate at least:
You forget almost all the math you took 10 years after you graduate. (I really do not know a single person that remember even the most basic linear algebra.)
Google is your friend to avoid wasting time.
You spend years building your own cheat sheets (utility tools, reusable functions, environment setups etc)
You have bookmark after bookmark of resource guides at your fingertips.
In the Real world for a CSC graduate at least:
You forget almost all the math you took 10 years after you graduate. (I really do not know a single person that remember even the most basic linear algebra.)
Google is your friend to avoid wasting time.
You spend years building your own cheat sheets (utility tools, reusable functions, environment setups etc)
You have bookmark after bookmark of resource guides at your fingertips.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:53 pm to rmc
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So basically a jr/sr level CSC class and he is cheating? Read the outline -- if you don't have most of that down before you take the class you need to change majors/minors. I'm not sure if this is the same class I had to take, but I didn't try very hard and passed easily when I took it.
Looks like it was the Assembly language class at LSU. Quite possibly the most useless class in the entire department.
I have on a couple occasions learned more in courses I made a C in than some courses I made an A in purely based on who the instructor was. There was an Operating Systems course everyone told me to take over the summer at LSU. I did and made an easy A and literally paid for my A. The instructor had a midterm and final only with 50 T or F questions. Then proceeded to give out assignments that counted for Bonus points on those tests. Then gave us bonus points for attendance. On my final I had to basically get 10 questions right out of 50 to get an A in the course and I never learned anything.
College can be a BS waste of time and money to get a piece of paper if you let it.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:12 pm to Cmlsu5618
My dad had a classmate who cheated all through engineering. His last class of his senior year he got caught. He failed and probably kept failing because everything he knew was from cheating.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:14 pm to Displaced
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pssh, just get there early and write lightly on your desk. once you are done just rub your arm over it and erase it.
Yep
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:20 pm to PapaPogey
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Yeah, 3 of my 5 classes this semester allowed "cheat sheets". Even with these, I was hardly scratching out a B on the test and I was more stressed out than if I had memorized the material. Now I'm done for good so it is what it is.
I'm taking a class now and I would've bombed 2 tests if we couldn't have cheat sheats. No way I could remember all that stuff.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:22 pm to KG6
Damn that blows, never cheated during college/grad school but saw many people do it. College I let people cheat off me, grad school I said frick no. Still cant believe I had someone ask me for help during a test.
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:25 pm to White Russian
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CSC 3501 at LSU
Is that an assembly based programming class?
If so, I know someone who took that final this morning.
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