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re: New Benghazi E-mail Akin to Discovery of Nixon Watergate Tapes
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:05 pm to son of arlo
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:05 pm to son of arlo
quote:
Trick question: Which POTUS was attempting to influence the outcome of a national election. Which POTUS lied to us on TV?
The Administration lied so that their foreign policy would not be questioned in an election year.
The election happened.
No one cares.
The Admin will simply say, "Oops. Sowwwy." And then move on.
What else could possibly come of this. NO ONE CARES.
I have cared since the day after the event when I followed it like crazy and started researching it. But, America doesn't care and the liberal media will cover for Obama.
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:11 pm to Lsut81
quote:
But watergate was a crime
How do we know about Benghazi ?
If Amd Stevens was running guns, like some have postulated, and was targeted for that reason. So they let him die, and allowed the evidence to be destroyed. Crime?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:13 pm to League Champs
quote:
But watergate was a crime
Withholding documents from congress would also be a crime and issa appears to be going after them. I'm not sure that goes anywhere but this is pretty serious.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:15 pm to League Champs
The cover up is what will get them in trouble. Especially if there is a shred of truth about using the extension building as cover for processing and shipping launchers to Syria.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:15 pm to Hawkeye95
The blinders worn by liberals is simply amazing to me.
Nixon's Committe to Re-Elect the President was involved in excessive political douchebaggery. To dramatically label the Watergate break in as a "CRIME!" and to dismiss the up and down incompetence, foreign policy naivete, lack of leadership, willful neglect of U.S. Personnel, obfuscation to the world of foreign policy successes/failures/policy, AND political douchebaggery including bald faced lying from the entire administration including Obama, shows that libs are right. Benghazi is not the same scandal as Watergate. IT'S MUCH WORSE.
Nixon lied because he thought the sophmoric poltical antics of his team was too embarassing and would diminish his image. Let's be clear, no evidence to date suggests that Nixon ordered or even knew about the break in until after the fact. His 'crime' was the lies to cover it up.
Obama's scandal is about the way his administration conducts official business. Benghazi showed his incompetence and that of Hillary's State Department. These agencies are then made to lie and dance to cover Obama's political arse. The media falls willingly into line, with Candy Crowley fellating the President in a political debate.
How can any of you fools defend this reeking piece of garbage? This is not simple more of the same old shite. This guy has made lying his primary method leadership, not to be questioned. And you just accept it!
How can you believe anything this man and his administration has to say ON ANY TOPIC? His mendacity is constant and automatic!
Nixon's Committe to Re-Elect the President was involved in excessive political douchebaggery. To dramatically label the Watergate break in as a "CRIME!" and to dismiss the up and down incompetence, foreign policy naivete, lack of leadership, willful neglect of U.S. Personnel, obfuscation to the world of foreign policy successes/failures/policy, AND political douchebaggery including bald faced lying from the entire administration including Obama, shows that libs are right. Benghazi is not the same scandal as Watergate. IT'S MUCH WORSE.
Nixon lied because he thought the sophmoric poltical antics of his team was too embarassing and would diminish his image. Let's be clear, no evidence to date suggests that Nixon ordered or even knew about the break in until after the fact. His 'crime' was the lies to cover it up.
Obama's scandal is about the way his administration conducts official business. Benghazi showed his incompetence and that of Hillary's State Department. These agencies are then made to lie and dance to cover Obama's political arse. The media falls willingly into line, with Candy Crowley fellating the President in a political debate.
How can any of you fools defend this reeking piece of garbage? This is not simple more of the same old shite. This guy has made lying his primary method leadership, not to be questioned. And you just accept it!
How can you believe anything this man and his administration has to say ON ANY TOPIC? His mendacity is constant and automatic!
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:17 pm to L.A.
Cliven Bundy! Don Sterlling! Scalia! Romney has a horse!
Now I know why Rex is flooding the board today.
Now I know why Rex is flooding the board today.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:21 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:. Your a special kind of stupid aren't you? Not the level of watergate? 4 people were slaughtered for being Americans.
the coverup is what doomed nixon. And this isn't near the level of watergate.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:22 pm to League Champs
quote:
If Amd Stevens was running guns, like some have postulated, and was targeted for that reason.
if stevens was running guns, then this scandal could potentially be huge. Not quite iran contra level stuff, but could take out Clinton for 2016. And really tarnish patreus.
The thing of course, is that isnt what krauthhammer, o'reilly, and this board talks about. They talk about what rice said on the morning talk shows.
And I bet congress already knows if stevens was running guns.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:23 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
. Your a special kind of stupid aren't you? Not the level of watergate? 4 people were slaughtered for being Americans.
what crime did the administration make in dealing with the events of Sept 12? Was it a crime or simply incompetence?
watergate was a crime that was directly tied to the president. I have yet to see a crime, nor is it directly tied to the president.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:23 pm to Hawkeye95
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the substance of the allegation is about politics playing a role in what rice said on tv, and the election, not what actually took place on sept 11. I mean, some critique of the response but everything I have seen has been about Rice's statement. After those people were dead.
But in both instances we see an administration pushing a lie to help a re-election.. What is different is that with watergate, the election would have probably turned out different. In this case, it probably wouldn't or shouldn't have been overly influential on the election.. Maybe but probably not.. To me it's becoming obvious that they lied and they spun a story that wouldn't hurt them on the election front.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:26 pm to CptBengal
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so like 8 or 12 people died in Watergate, not just 4?
This would be a decent argument if the coverup was because we had armed the folks who did the killing or similar. Blaming Obama for the deaths is a reach, though I do think there are a number of valid arguments that this could and should have been avoided.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:29 pm to Hawkeye95
I was joking when I called you stupid. I am normally sure that most here are relatively intelligent but I am beginning to wonder. What crime did they commit? They refused to send help to American citizens who were begging for it. That's what our government is supposed to do protect American citizens and their interest at home and abroad. For this and this alone they all should be in jail. The gun running y'all are talking I can't comment on because I haven't read up on it.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:31 pm to Hawkeye95
Quit repeating 'crime' like that word is a trump card with some special power. Lies of this magnatude about international terrorism and the deaths of a US Ambassador and 3 others is certainly a bigger deal than jimmying a lock on a hotel door to look at some campaign notes in your opponent's office.
I guess the Gulf of Tonkin incident is also no big deal since no 'crime' was commited, only a little white lie used as a casus belli for the Vietnam War.
I guess the Gulf of Tonkin incident is also no big deal since no 'crime' was commited, only a little white lie used as a casus belli for the Vietnam War.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:33 pm to Hawkeye95
The lies of sept 12 and after is not the biggest issue for me. It's a sitting U.S. President and his administration ignoring the pleas of American citizens facing death.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:33 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Blaming Obama for the deaths is a reach,
repeated requests for more security.
increasing violence and size of attacks leading to 9/11
pulling out of the british mission in benghazi.
pulling out of french delegation due to security concerns.
Yeah....not their fault they didnt do anything.
Then they didnt even mount a rescue effort.
Yeah...not their fault either.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:34 pm to Jimbeaux
People died. Obama lied.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:37 pm to son of arlo
quote:. I am not a bumper sticker type but that would look good on a sticker or t shirt
Posted by son of arlo People died. Obama lied.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:37 pm to TROLA
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But in both instances we see an administration pushing a lie to help a re-election.. What is different is that with watergate, the election would have probably turned out different. In this case, it probably wouldn't or shouldn't have been overly influential on the election.. Maybe but probably not.. To me it's becoming obvious that they lied and they spun a story that wouldn't hurt them on the election front.
You are either joking or seriously ill informed. The break in of the Watergate Hotel made no impact on what would have otherwise been and what ended up being a landslide victory for Nixon. What is absurd about Watergate is that CREEP was imbued with the same irrational paranoia that Nixon possessed, which was the ultimate cause of their undoing.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:37 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
Quit repeating 'crime' like that word is a trump card with some special power.
It does have special power. The gist of this thread is that this is equivalent to watergate. But there is a big big big difference. The nixon administration broke a law, and then covered it up and the president recorded the cover up.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:38 pm to L.A.
at these idiots who don't think Obama is far worse than Nixon. He has used his powers to go after his adversaries via the IRS. He and his comrades lied to the 4 families about their kids being killed because of a video, when they knew it was a terrorist act, ANY POS who lies to our soldiers family about the true cause of their death is a slime POS not worthy of office and a million times worse than Nixon, who only covered up a political break - in. 
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