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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:51 am to Baloo
BTW - everyone answering Crash is high on crack. Crash was widely seen as a terrible choice even at the time, the result of an exceedingly weak year of Oscar contenders and the old guard coalescing around some film, any film, other than Brokeback. I don't think Crash wins against any other Oscar winner ever. It only won 3 Oscars which is light for a Best Picture winner.
Given any other decent choice, I think the Academy clearly votes for something other than Crash.
Given any other decent choice, I think the Academy clearly votes for something other than Crash.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:51 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Saving Private Ryan
Oh wait, never mind.
Oh wait, never mind.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:52 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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So did Gravity this year...yet...
which is why they really f-ed up this year. On that note, however, Cabaret won 8 in 1972 and The Godfather only won 3.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:54 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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So did Gravity this year...yet...
sure -- Music, Sound Mix, Sound Edit, and Visual Effects were four of 'em. OK, it won editing, cinematography, and director which are major awards, but it's wins reeked of "accomplished technical film". It didn't win any actor wards, and was only up for one. It's screenplay wasn't even nominated, so you know it lost two fairly large voting blocks right off the bat: writers and actors.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:57 am to Baloo
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but it's wins reeked of "accomplished technical film".
titanic was this + accomplished costume/set design
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It didn't win any actor wards
titanic didn't either and it's writing didn't win anything, either
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:57 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I would like to think Gladiator.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:58 am to Baloo
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Music
NOT a technical award. I'm so tired of hearing this argument. The Academy clearly thought this was the BP of the year. It wasn't even close.
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It didn't win any actor wards, and was only up for one. It's screenplay wasn't even nominated, so you know it lost two fairly large voting blocks right off the bat: writers and actors.
It won 7 out of 10. The BP winner won 3 of 9 losing four major categories.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:58 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Dances With Wolves
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:00 am to Baloo
I'm wondering what it was about Titanic that made it such a huge winner. It kind of seems like it was a big deal for its technical accomplishments in a similar fashion as Gravity. Those special effects were a pretty big deal back then.
I looked up some of the other films that it went up against that year for a point of reference. Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, The Full Monty, As Good as It Gets.
I looked up some of the other films that it went up against that year for a point of reference. Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, The Full Monty, As Good as It Gets.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:03 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Dances With Wolves
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:03 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Whichever one has the most PC agenda.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:04 am to Peazey
historical setting + amazing effects + love story + celebrating a "good" movie making so much money. just a ton of overall momentum
people forget it often now, but before its release it was seen as an impending super bust of a movie that went way over budget and had no audience. it didn't even open that well, but it charged through and just kept rolling week after week
it's financial success was kind of a throwback to the old school, instead of SUPER opening weekend with a dramatic fall, only to be out of theaters in a month. the academy gave it the respect
people forget it often now, but before its release it was seen as an impending super bust of a movie that went way over budget and had no audience. it didn't even open that well, but it charged through and just kept rolling week after week
it's financial success was kind of a throwback to the old school, instead of SUPER opening weekend with a dramatic fall, only to be out of theaters in a month. the academy gave it the respect
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:05 am to Baloo
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the result of an exceedingly weak year of Oscar contenders and the old guard coalescing around some film,
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1997 Best Picture Nominees
Titanic
As Good as It Gets
Good Will Hunting
L.A. Confidential
The Full Monty
meh
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:09 am to Fearthehat0307
quote:Both.
which part? where rose's fat arse let's jack die or where old rose selfish arse throws that big arse jewel in the ocean?
That selfish bitch didn't deserve to live.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:10 am to Peazey
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I looked up some of the other films that it went up against that year for a point of reference. Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, The Full Monty, As Good as It Gets.
Gladiator had weak arse competition too.
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Gladiator
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Traffic
Chocolat
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Gladiator
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Traffic
Chocolat
jesus
that's as weak as it gets
eta I hated CTHD fwiw. I don't understand the love for that movie.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:13 am to cas4t
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that's as weak as it gets
Nope, the year Crash won was the lowest I think.
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Brokeback Mountain
Crash
Munich
Good Night, and Good Luck
Capote
ETA: also the year The Departed won.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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historical setting + amazing effects + love story + celebrating a "good" movie making so much money. just a ton of overall momentum
I'm thinking the money part had to be maybe the biggest part of it. For how much money that it made, it would have been a marketing nightmare if it wasn't at least nominated for a bunch of awards for the sake of legitimacy.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:22 am
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