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Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by specchaser
lafayette
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:39 am
I think cjj may have found his best starting 5. Coleman is not really a 2 guard but getting him and Martin on the floor at the same time puts your best 5 on the floor. The team is long and athletic and very tough defensively with that group.

Stringer had a nice game off the bench and hopefully Morgan will find his shot soon.

Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:50 am to
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hopefully Morgan will find his shot soon.


This is really important for the remainder of the season.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43476 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 8:55 am to
Honestly, Coleman has been LSU's most consistent 3 point shooter all year. I don't see why he can't play the 2 for us. I agree that having him on the court with Martin Mickey and JOB brings a lot of size and energy.

Malik just can't make a shot. At all. He's shooting 51% free throws, 45% two point shots and 24% threes. Those are all pretty bad.
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28633 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:02 am to
Martin struggled earlier in the season playing the 3 but he had a great game last night.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5642 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:07 am to
I liked the new line-up last night. While at the two guard, Coleman's ball-handling was good against Kentucky. That's probably the biggest concern for him while at the other guard spot.

I thought Johnny Jones did a great job with line-ups & substitutions last night. Although it does help when everyone chips in with a handful of baskets
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:08 am to
More importantly he may have found that this team plays a zone more effectively than man. This lineup also allows us to press a little more . Morgan and Quarterman need to be limited in minutes and play Stringer more against zone D.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:10 am to
I don't think this pushes LSU to play more zone than normal. The SEC is a guard oriented league and Kentucky had plenty of open shots from them. This game was different because we were focusing on stopping their post players.

This will likely be the only game we play a zone from start to finish, including our game at Kentucky later in the year.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:14 am to
Also, all told, we probably needed to go to man with 3 minutes remaining when they stopped threatening the block. Otherwise, Coach Jones pushed all the right buttons.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43476 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:16 am to
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Also, all told, we probably needed to go to man with 3 minutes remaining when they stopped threatening the block. Otherwise, Coach Jones pushed all the right buttons.


agree. When they needed three's we shoulda backed out of that zone, but I agree Coach caught Cal with his pants down with that zone.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5642 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:31 am to
Kentucky never really fed James Young. Sure Young got his shots, but he was hitting at a good clip. UK didn't keep going to him against our 2-3 zone. I think Coach Jones is happy to know he has that 2-3 zone in his back pocket. Sort of like the press.
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 9:33 am
Posted by redfish99
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:34 am to
I disagree, I see us playing it way more now than we did before. It's def a matchup thing but teams like Fla. Kent ,it's our only chance. It allows us to stop dribble penetration and keeps JOB and Mickey out of foul trouble. Two of our biggest nemesis this year. I thinks it'll help against most teams .We shall se
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78082 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:42 am to
I think it was a lineup intended to matchup with kentucky's size. They may use it going forward, but i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:47 am to
It's good to hear that coach is adjusting and adapting as the team develops.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28632 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:47 am to
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I don't think this pushes LSU to play more zone than normal. The SEC is a guard oriented league and Kentucky had plenty of open shots from them. This game was different because we were focusing on stopping their post players.


LSU still doesn't play great man-to-man defense. They allow guys to get far more penetration than they should. Martin is the biggest culprit because he is just flat out lazy for long stretches of the game. Coleman gets in good position, but then constantly loses it buy leaving his feet for seemingly no reason. LSU will always be a man-to-man team, but I can see CJJ going to zone more when teams are having success attacking the basket like Alabama did. LSU has the players to be a long team. Especially at home, make an opponents guards prove they can shoot over the top of the zone.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5642 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 9:52 am to
I think we'll see more zone over Jones' tenure. It's tough right now with two sub 6' guards who play extended minutes.
quote:

LSU still doesn't play great man-to-man defense.

Not many teams do. Martin has been a disappointment defensively. Man-to-man is still our best option to defend opponents though.
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1370 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 10:19 am to
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Coleman has been LSU's most consistent 3 point shooter all year


Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2656 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:05 am to
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hopefully Morgan will find his shot soon.


This is really important for the remainder of the season.



No, not really. Morgan has been somewhat of a non factor and will continue to be so. We just beat Kentucky with almost no help from him. Here is his stats for last night's game with Stringer's next to it. There are so many Andre haters out there who put out the fiction that Morgan needs to be playing instead of him.

Morgan Played 6 minutes Stringer played 22 minutes
Morgan 0-4 from the field 0-3 from 3
Stringer 3-4 from the field 3-4 from 3

Andre also plays much more consistent defense than Morgan. Yes he is short and they sometimes take advantage of that and Morgan is good on the offensive boards. But overall Stringer is the key to this team and not Morgan.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2656 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:12 am to
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Coleman has been LSU's most consistent 3 point shooter all year

False! Stringer has been our best 3 point shooter. Stats for the year so far are Stringer 39-96 .406 and Coleman 22-63 .349. Martin has shot fewer but is better percentage also at .367. Hickey is not far back at .333.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:15 am to
Morgan didn't even look like he was properly squared up on his 3s. Just not a good night for him. I hope he finds his offense soon.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68594 posts
Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:18 am to
I think Hickey/Coleman/Martin/Mickey/O'Bryant III has to be the starting 5 from here on out.

They bring a lot of length to the floor and everyone can play their spots at a high level.

Stringer is much more effective coming off the bench against some backups or tired legs. Quarterman is still learning the game is zero threat to score. Morgan grabs boards and plays tough but has just been miserable shooting the ball.

The only worry about starting those 5 and bringing the rest of the guys off the bench is Stringer is your only threat of scoring really...but he seems to get more open looks when going against some tired legs or backups than starting a game out.
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