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re: Not enough minority head coaches in the NFL.....
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:11 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:11 pm to Ponchy Tiger
So if a team wastes a minority candidates time for an interview knowing that they want to hire a white coach, is that also "racist"?
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:37 pm to Marciano1
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So if a team wastes a minority candidates time for an interview knowing that they want to hire a white coach, is that also "racist"?
Exactly the fact that this rule is in place is a slap in the face good minority coaches. It sends the message they must be helped because aren't good enough to compete with whites.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
What about gay head coaches? A gay, minority coach with a disability would be the balls
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:55 pm to kywildcatfanone
Just like in everything else. Screw the idea of hiring the best qualified. Hire the best best qualified minority
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:05 pm to TigerTailsSoup
Umm. That isn't the proper definition of minority coach
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:12 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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No shite. Can you read? They want to give them exposure not force teams to hire guys.
Why can't they just rely on their resumes like the rest of the world?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:21 pm to kywildcatfanone
I wonder what this guy's opinion would be
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:28 pm to kywildcatfanone
The Rooney Rule is a huge joke imo.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:37 pm to kywildcatfanone
How many starting corners are
White I wonder ?
White I wonder ?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:40 pm to dash-right-93-berlin
The Cowboys have a few...
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:49 pm to GeauxTigersLee
quote:Its obviously not the only way but it is a perfectly legitimate way in spite of the fact that it makes people like you butthurt
So you're trying to tell me the only way for minority candidates to get exposure is through this "committee"? Do you really think this helps their cause for getting the job?
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 12/19/13 at 2:58 am to kywildcatfanone
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After the 2012 NFL season, the 32 teams in the league combined to hire 14 new head coaches and general managers. Despite the presence of the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate for a head coaching job, no minority coaches were hired.
my question is, how many minorities is enough? 6 coaches and 4 GMs? 10 and 8?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:23 am to chalmetteowl
This is so stupid, ok so when can we get 8 former players together and say "we need more white players in the NFL"! It never stops 
..oh and Defensive Coordinator Ray Horton from the Cleveland Browns will most likely land head job this offseason because he is a dam fine coach...not because he is black.
..oh and Defensive Coordinator Ray Horton from the Cleveland Browns will most likely land head job this offseason because he is a dam fine coach...not because he is black.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 6:25 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:14 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Its obviously not the only way but it is a perfectly legitimate way in spite of the fact that it makes people like you butthurt
It's a slap in the face to minorities. If I were a minority coach or potential coaching candidate, I would be extremely offended.
Things like the Rooney rule are creating an issue out of thin air. The only color these owners and GM's care about is Green. None of the 32 owners with millions upon millions of dollars on the line is going to risk it over someone's skin color.
Fans, players, media, ______ saying otherwise are just ignorant and foolish.
Why does there have to be "balance" as it pertains to skin color? Why can't it just be the 32 best coaches (or at least best as perceived by ownership at the time of hire)?
It's bull shite rules like this that people claim are put in place to move forward in race relations, that actually make it worse.
The Rooney rule should be abolished. It's racist as hell and offensive to minorities.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:16 am to kywildcatfanone
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which requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate for a head coaching job, no minority coaches were hired.
Maybe, just maybe they werent the most qualified for the job
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:55 am to More beer please
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Maybe, just maybe they werent the most qualified for the job
That's what people can't accept.
Wanna know why most starting cornerbacks aren't white? Because they didn't qualify for the job.
If these owners/teams/gm's were truly letting race affect their decisions like the Rooney Rule thinks they do, then we'd have way more white corners, running backs and receivers running around out there.
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:56 am to kywildcatfanone
all you can do is shake your head
they are going to kill this golden goose
they are going to kill this golden goose
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:21 am to DelU249
The Rooney rule doesn't work, quotas don't work and are un-American, you can't make anyone hire a specific coach.
But to suggest there isn't a problem is also ridiculous.
There have been 15 full-time permanent black head coaches in the NFL and 11 have taken their teams to the playoff, and of the 4 who didn't, 2 had 10 win seasons. Now there is a reason for this great percentage....the mediocre don't get jobs and only the close friends of owners and GMs get the retread opportunities.
I don't know the reason for it - nor the solution. But there are too few.
WE know why there weren't many in college football...Colleges wouldn't hire black coaches for decades because they assumed the worst of their alumni bases.
But to suggest there isn't a problem is also ridiculous.
There have been 15 full-time permanent black head coaches in the NFL and 11 have taken their teams to the playoff, and of the 4 who didn't, 2 had 10 win seasons. Now there is a reason for this great percentage....the mediocre don't get jobs and only the close friends of owners and GMs get the retread opportunities.
I don't know the reason for it - nor the solution. But there are too few.
WE know why there weren't many in college football...Colleges wouldn't hire black coaches for decades because they assumed the worst of their alumni bases.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:40 am to Overbrook
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But to suggest there isn't a problem is also ridiculous.
Why is having more white coaches than black coaches a problem? And why would having equal or more black coaches NOT be a problem?
True equality is not based on outcome but on opportunity.
Is there a problem on the field because more than half of some player positions are occupied by minorities and not whites? If the answer is no, then it's hypocritical (IMO) to say there's the same problem with coaching.
All players get their opportunity and the best player gets the job.
Teams will get the best candidates in line for an interview, and the best candidate will get the coaching job.
To try to handicap the system and force teams to interview minority candidates is (or at least it should be) insulting.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/19/13 at 12:01 pm to dcrews
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Why is having more white coaches than black coaches a problem? And why would having equal or more black coaches NOT be a problem?
True equality is not based on outcome but on opportunity
Because it's pretty obvious based on the number of hirings that they aren't getting the equal opportunity.
But I agree, the concern should be about opportunity. But opportunity is more than just not having laws preventing the hiring of black coaches. It includes open minds, which, cannot be legislated and for which, like I said, I have no solution.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 12:03 pm
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