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re: UPDATE: Texas Coaching Search - Tier 1 and Tier 2 lists
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:01 am to TheRookbird
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:01 am to TheRookbird
Actually did not realize it was Clay since the guy giving the odds was someone else.
Here is that article (All of these type articles and our insight on this board are BS, but still).
Nick Saban: 2-1
I originally posted yesterday on twitter that he should be 10-1. Upon further investigation it appears there’s a lot more noise about Nick considering a move away from Tuscaloosa meaning a drastic requirement was needed. We all know the story about his wife looking for a place in Austin earlier this fall, clearly that was just for their potential retirement right? I find it hard to believe Mack would step down in the manner he did if Texas didn’t believe they already had an optimal candidate in place. Stories have surfaced about Saban’s financial security as well given some wayward real estate investments tied to SEC boosters. He’s accomplished all he can at Alabama in my opinion; why not bring another proud program back to the zenith of college football for your final career achievement?
Mike Gundy: 9-2
I heard his name thrown around this past weekend by a close industry colleague Adam Kramer. He made great points about what Gundy's done to bring Oklahoma St back from the abyss. The major strike against Gundy is he's struggled to get through Oklahoma which won’t sit well with Texas boosters. However, he’s known for explosive offenses and an exciting brand of football which would be very attractive to the fan base. His questionable track record of in game management is cause for concern however his familiarity with the fertile recruiting grounds around the Big XII make him a very logical fit in Austin.
James Franklin: 7-1
You want to talk about a fun hire here’s your guy. His youthful exuberance and ability to coach up 3* recruits in just a few short years at Vanderbilt give him a compelling resume. Imagine if he had the resources of a Texas behind him coupled with illustrious football tradition rather than building a program from scratch. I was surprised he didn’t get more serious consideration for the USC job but Texas would be foolish not to consider him for this spot. The big winner if Franklin bolts for Austin? The younger Stoops along with every Tennessee and Kentucky fan.
David Shaw: 8-1
Stanford didn't miss a beat without coach Harbaugh. Shaw has shown the knack for getting to BCS bowls, winning games, and playing power football. I'm convinced if you can win at Stanford you can win just about anywhere. Reason he's not higher on this list is simply because a few people close to the situation said powers that be have soured on him recently but you know what that can mean...absolutely nothing.
Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin 10-1:
Why am I grouping these two coaches together and offering them for the bargain price? It’s because both just recently signed extensions and I’d imagine their respective administrations would rather black ball them out of the business entirely before letting them head to Texas. I never say never in this business where money is king given both of these top coaches would do wonders for recruiting the best offensive talent in the land. Do I think either of them will make the leap? Not really but rather than offer them individually let’s go package deal for the old SWC connection.
Jim Mora Jr 12-1
Another name that’s been thrown into the mix but I believe his cup of coffee in Seattle will be his only foray into testing the waters this off season given his recent extension. I know he’s done a great job with the Bruins but I don’t get all the fanfare around why he’s such a coveted commodity. Texas poses very different challenges than he’s encountered in Westwood where he isn't expected to win national championships yet at the city's 2nd most prestigious program. I don’t think he’ll end up on campus in Austin however people I trust tell me I need to keep his odds respectable “just because.”
Jon Gruden 15-1
Pretty sure he’s going to make every list of coaching candidates at the NFL, NCAA, or High School leve. I don’t think he ever sets foot on a college campus, even Texas, but as an oddsmaker you’d be happy to capture dead money at this price.
Gus Malzahn 18-1
He always said Texas would be a dream job. Auburn just threw the kitchen sink at him and he’d be foolish to leave the job security this dream season has likely created. Never say never and quite frankly it’s always best to land the prom queen when your stock is sky high.
Major Applewhite 20-1
I don’t think he’s ready for a job of this magnitude however why rule him out entirely? There's nothing better than bringing a Texas man to top billing as a step up from offensive coordinator. He's probably not quite there career wise as of now but still an intriguing option.
Todd Graham 25-1
Do you even have to ask? Just because...
Will Muschamp 40-1
This would be the ultimate Texas move like launching the Longhorn Network without the proper cable partners. Bringing Will in after his mediocre tenure at UF would be akin to Auburn hiring Gene Chizik after he’d done nothing in Ames. Actually that’s not true, Will has a better pedigree because he did take the Gators to a BCS bowl whereas Gene couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Relax Auburn fans don’t kill me, you’ve seen Malzahn at work this year so there’s no defending who the real genius was behind the national championship campaign. Muschamp to Texas would be such a Texas move.
Here is that article (All of these type articles and our insight on this board are BS, but still).
Nick Saban: 2-1
I originally posted yesterday on twitter that he should be 10-1. Upon further investigation it appears there’s a lot more noise about Nick considering a move away from Tuscaloosa meaning a drastic requirement was needed. We all know the story about his wife looking for a place in Austin earlier this fall, clearly that was just for their potential retirement right? I find it hard to believe Mack would step down in the manner he did if Texas didn’t believe they already had an optimal candidate in place. Stories have surfaced about Saban’s financial security as well given some wayward real estate investments tied to SEC boosters. He’s accomplished all he can at Alabama in my opinion; why not bring another proud program back to the zenith of college football for your final career achievement?
Mike Gundy: 9-2
I heard his name thrown around this past weekend by a close industry colleague Adam Kramer. He made great points about what Gundy's done to bring Oklahoma St back from the abyss. The major strike against Gundy is he's struggled to get through Oklahoma which won’t sit well with Texas boosters. However, he’s known for explosive offenses and an exciting brand of football which would be very attractive to the fan base. His questionable track record of in game management is cause for concern however his familiarity with the fertile recruiting grounds around the Big XII make him a very logical fit in Austin.
James Franklin: 7-1
You want to talk about a fun hire here’s your guy. His youthful exuberance and ability to coach up 3* recruits in just a few short years at Vanderbilt give him a compelling resume. Imagine if he had the resources of a Texas behind him coupled with illustrious football tradition rather than building a program from scratch. I was surprised he didn’t get more serious consideration for the USC job but Texas would be foolish not to consider him for this spot. The big winner if Franklin bolts for Austin? The younger Stoops along with every Tennessee and Kentucky fan.
David Shaw: 8-1
Stanford didn't miss a beat without coach Harbaugh. Shaw has shown the knack for getting to BCS bowls, winning games, and playing power football. I'm convinced if you can win at Stanford you can win just about anywhere. Reason he's not higher on this list is simply because a few people close to the situation said powers that be have soured on him recently but you know what that can mean...absolutely nothing.
Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin 10-1:
Why am I grouping these two coaches together and offering them for the bargain price? It’s because both just recently signed extensions and I’d imagine their respective administrations would rather black ball them out of the business entirely before letting them head to Texas. I never say never in this business where money is king given both of these top coaches would do wonders for recruiting the best offensive talent in the land. Do I think either of them will make the leap? Not really but rather than offer them individually let’s go package deal for the old SWC connection.
Jim Mora Jr 12-1
Another name that’s been thrown into the mix but I believe his cup of coffee in Seattle will be his only foray into testing the waters this off season given his recent extension. I know he’s done a great job with the Bruins but I don’t get all the fanfare around why he’s such a coveted commodity. Texas poses very different challenges than he’s encountered in Westwood where he isn't expected to win national championships yet at the city's 2nd most prestigious program. I don’t think he’ll end up on campus in Austin however people I trust tell me I need to keep his odds respectable “just because.”
Jon Gruden 15-1
Pretty sure he’s going to make every list of coaching candidates at the NFL, NCAA, or High School leve. I don’t think he ever sets foot on a college campus, even Texas, but as an oddsmaker you’d be happy to capture dead money at this price.
Gus Malzahn 18-1
He always said Texas would be a dream job. Auburn just threw the kitchen sink at him and he’d be foolish to leave the job security this dream season has likely created. Never say never and quite frankly it’s always best to land the prom queen when your stock is sky high.
Major Applewhite 20-1
I don’t think he’s ready for a job of this magnitude however why rule him out entirely? There's nothing better than bringing a Texas man to top billing as a step up from offensive coordinator. He's probably not quite there career wise as of now but still an intriguing option.
Todd Graham 25-1
Do you even have to ask? Just because...
Will Muschamp 40-1
This would be the ultimate Texas move like launching the Longhorn Network without the proper cable partners. Bringing Will in after his mediocre tenure at UF would be akin to Auburn hiring Gene Chizik after he’d done nothing in Ames. Actually that’s not true, Will has a better pedigree because he did take the Gators to a BCS bowl whereas Gene couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Relax Auburn fans don’t kill me, you’ve seen Malzahn at work this year so there’s no defending who the real genius was behind the national championship campaign. Muschamp to Texas would be such a Texas move.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:04 am to MikeTIGER83
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My old college coach who coached in the NFL and now coaches at LSU told me he rather coach in the NFL due to the hours.(I fill like I said "coach" too many times lol) NFL is more like a 9-5 job with a couple of months off if your not in the playoffs.
NFL Head Coaches work far more than most college coaches, and its extremely well documented and basically a fact. They work obscene hours. They basically work 15 hour days 7 days a week from Late July until their team is eliminated.
Just ask Steve Spurrier.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:06 am to allin2010
Hiring Briles or Gundy is intriguing because it would effectively neuter one of two schools that compete with UT for the Big 12 title every year.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:08 am to Chicken
Hiring Briles just makes WAY too much sense.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:10 am to Chicken
Gundy or Malzahn will be the hire with Gundy being the best option.
Fisher isn't going to Texas.
Expect some leaks the week following up to BCSCG
Fisher isn't going to Texas.
Expect some leaks the week following up to BCSCG
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:11 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
NFL Head Coaches work far more than most college coaches, and its extremely well documented and basically a fact. They work obscene hours. They basically work 15 hour days 7 days a week from Late July until their team is eliminated.
yeah he pretty much had that backwards - there is no offseason in the NFL for HCs.
college is a series of one year scholarships so you have total roster control - not so in the NFL
CFB head coaches dont have to do too much in May and June - Pro coaches have OTAs in May and June
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:15 am to Fun Bunch
quote:I have heard reference to Briles voting UT low in a coaches poll ballet years ago that affected UT's ability to get into the BCS title game. If true, he might not have a shot at the job even if he wants it.
Hiring Briles just makes WAY too much sense.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 am to Chicken
Mr. Chicken, sir, is your source telling you Saban is kaput?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 am to supatigah
That is why UT wants to pursue Harbaugh with the promise of riches and the ability to spend more time with young kids (I think he has an infant son).
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 am to allin2010
quote:
Nick Saban 2-1
Edit : Sorry all in, just noticed this was a Travis article. He's a clown. But never yield.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:17 am to Chicken
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I have heard reference to Briles voting UT low in a coaches poll ballet years ago that affected UT's ability to get into the BCS title game. If true, he might not have a shot at the job even if he wants it.
Which is a fricking stupid reason on UT's part.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:18 am to LSURussian
quote:haven't heard anything...I guess you can assume Saban is in play until some other coach is announced, but I have a hard time believing that Saban is going anywhere. Terry got her "appreciation" with the new contract.
Mr. Chicken, sir, is your source telling you Saban is kaput?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:20 am to TTsTowel
quote:
(both done due to the crazy, unconfirmed rumors that they wanted the Texas head coaching job).
Well Gus did say that Texas is his dream job.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:24 am to Chicken
quote:
Saban is in play until some other coach is announced
I know not many will believe this but saban is absolutely still in play and UT will officially offer him the job soon now that the spot is officially "open"
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:27 am to Chicken
quote:so, the appreciation from March 2012 (just 21 months ago) to make Saban the highest paid college coach wasn't enough?
Terry got her "appreciation" with the new contract.
I think Saban is still in play. I think the best hire, might be Les Miles. He is a great coach and would play along nicely with all of the boosters, media requirements, high school coaches, recruiting. IMO, he'd be an absolute perfect hire.
But, I think they still announce Saban within 72 hours.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:27 am to TheDoc
quote:
I know not many will believe this but saban is absolutely still in play and UT will officially offer him the job soon now that the spot is officially "open"
Thank God we have you here to tell us what's going on
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:28 am to Chicken
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I don't think they get Briles either. This search has all the makings of one giant cluster frick. Should be fun
starting to remind me of Florida's search after Spurrier left...Foley flew all over the country interviewing top names and ended up with Ron Zook.
kige that
It seems like there are too many people with their fingers in the pie at Texas who demand to have influence/input and who like to leak information.
That's got the potential to end up with a Zook style hiring even if they are Texas.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:30 am to TheDoc
quote:
I know not many will believe this but saban is absolutely still in play and UT will officially offer him the job soon now that the spot is officially "open"
He would lose all credibility if he did this. He's not stupid. He knows how far to push. This would be too far.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:32 am to Vegas Bengal
No one would care
He's nick fricking saban
Winning coach of the last 3 of 4 championships.
He's nick fricking saban
Winning coach of the last 3 of 4 championships.
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